JonS Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Has anyone heard of the above author? Stone & Stone are reporting a book by him due out in a couple of weeks, which looks very interesting: 56th Infantry Brigade and D-Day: An Independent Infantry Brigade and the Campaign in North West Europe 1944-1945 But ... the book is kinda expensive, I've never heard of this guy, I can't find anything published by him online through JSTOR, and his doctoral thesis at Plymouth Uni doesn't seem to be online (yet?), etc. I'm tempted to take a punt anyway, but I'm not so sure my domestic money manager would be as keen. So, does anyone know enough about this guy to be able to reccomend the book? Cheers Jon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affentitten Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Pretty much sounds like his doctoral thesis put out by a bespoke publisher. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 Yeah, I agree, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing (see: "Closing with the enemy", or Hart, or "Sledgehammers," or Buckingham, etc), and anyway usually there is additional material and comment that wasn't appropriate for the thesis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affentitten Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Oh I know. I was just thinking that's amybe why you can't find previous authorship by him....this is his first effort. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 mmm, yeah. I've come across a number of similar cases where the author published some articles or book reviews in relevant journals while writing of their thesis. Some universities have their student's theses available on line. Buckingham's, for example, on the British airborne forces in WWII is available. But I couldn't come up with the magic incantation for Plymouth and Holborn. Then again, the author bio indicates he's only just finished his doctorate so it may just not be ready for uploading. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affentitten Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 The eThesis system is undergoing a lot of soul seraching at the moment. Over the last 5 years there has been the move from most unis to make theses available online as a matter of course. However, as with most online stuff, the copyright lawyers have strated to get their teeth into it. Plus there is the more usual situation where someone wants to sell their PhD as a book and don't want to give it away for free, so they can opt out of online display. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted April 15, 2010 Author Share Posted April 15, 2010 Copyright lawyers can pi$$off. Meh. So much for the pursuit of knowledge for it's own sake. In most cases, the thesis is being payed for - in substantial part - by the public. Also, and because of this, a number of teritiary institutes clearly retain IP to anything developed by students, which can admittedly be a bit of a cause of angst with affected students. IMO, therefore, morally and legally the theses should be publically available, regardless of what the student wants. I'm tempted to buy the book, but I'm put off because I can't find anything else by this guy. Hiding his thesis - if that's what's going on - is working against his interests. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affentitten Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 It's not just a money making thing. The copyright provisos have got out of hand. Depending on what sort of thesis you're doing, you can now be in a position of having to gain express copyright permission of any author you reference if it ends up in an online form. ie. there is no longer the defence that if you attribute it properly and it is for scholarly purposes you can use it. You actually have to go and get permission to use because you are publishing publicly. It only applies where you use more than 1% of a published work, but if you are talking newspaper articles, poetry, speeches etc, that's easy to exceed. Imagine the logistics for that. Here are the FAQs for my own uni's eThesis system. You'll note the possibility of withdrawing if you get a publisher's agreement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted April 15, 2010 Author Share Posted April 15, 2010 Monash? o_O Nice. The rest of your post just makes me grumpy. :mad: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affentitten Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Monash? o_O I enrolled there because I liked the name. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted April 15, 2010 Author Share Posted April 15, 2010 There're some interesting things in the Australasian Digital Thesis Program. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Originally Posted by JonS Monash? o_O As opposed to Murdoch University? Thankfully, it wasn't named after the newspaper mogul in contrast with Bond University which WAS named after a convicted 'greed is good' style conman! Regards KR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affentitten Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 As opposed to Murdoch University? Thankfully, it wasn't named after the newspaper mogul in contrast with Bond University which WAS named after a convicted 'greed is good' style conman! Regards KR Well Bond founded the university. So I guess it's only fair that he named it after himself! And he wasn't a convicted criminal at the time he founded it, so it's not fair to say that Bond Uni was named after one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseltaylor Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I suppose it was not a coincidence then that the Uni is at Rob/in/a ... then. Reading the Wiki its nice to see he is back to being a multimillionaire [250M+] when his creditors were persuaded to accept half a cent in the dollar when he went bust. hats what I call business $1.8billion paid of with $12M ....... I think I ought to talk to my creditors! : ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted April 15, 2010 Author Share Posted April 15, 2010 Ahem. Anyway. Holborn? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Why don't you phone the uni and ask them or talk to him? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Affentitten Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Why don't you phone the uni and ask them or talk to him? "Hello, Dr Holborn? My name's Jon. I want to read your book but I don't want to pay for it. Can you send me a copy for free because I haven't been able to pinch one out of the university database. Yes, that's right. I am a New Zealander. How did you know?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoolaman Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 or "Hey man, I need the inside skinny, is your book good or is it sh1t?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 "Hi, my name is Jon Sarkipants, why yes it is French, can you tell me if the thesis by Andrew Holborn is anywhere online, or if you have a policy regarding these things?". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted April 15, 2010 Author Share Posted April 15, 2010 This is more fun than the rock thread So, I take it the answer is no. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Andrew who? Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted March 25, 2014 Author Share Posted March 25, 2014 http://pearl.plymouth.ac.uk/handle/10026.1/1996 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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