CMSF Red Tank Cabability Table v1.0

[Smaragdadler]

I tried to make some 'grog-table' for the red tanks in CMSF. This is what I can come up with. Feel free to post your thoughts/found mistakes/critic.

+ CMSF Red Tank Cabability Table +

by Smaragdadler

version: 1.0

The tanks are ordered as classes and after technology level . The rating of a tank 'good/bad' makes only sense against members of his own class. Classes from low to high are: uncon, reserve, regular and guard. Tec level follows decades and goes up with time. Comparison of tanks (worse/better) from different classes should only made in same tec level.

"+equipment" -> item in question is added newly with this upgrade

"equpment(+)" -> item in question gets upgraded version

"version(+...)" -> number of crosses shows the number of upgrade of this particular model

[blabla] -> more specific info about upgrade

1950's tec

T-54B (immobile): original Russian base model: 100mm Gun, 7.62mm coaxMG, 12.7mm AAMG, Gyrostab, Radio, Wpn Controls, Optics, Tracks, static[!];

T-55 (immobile): original Russian base model: ammunition(+)

1960's tec

nothing -> all upgraded to at least 70's tec level

1970's tec

T-55-1970: upgrade original version(+): 100mm Gun(+), +gyrostab, engine(+); *worst red reserve / standard red uncon*

T-62-1972: upgrade original Russian model(+): 115mm Gun, Gyrostab(+), Optics(+)[NV600-800m]; *rare bad red reserve*

T-55-1974: upgrade original version(++): +Targeting[KTD-2]; *standard red reserve*

T-62-1975: upgrade original version(++): +Targeting[KTD-2]; *rare above-standard red reserve*

T-72M (Early): base Russian export model: +125mm Gun, +Targeting[KTD-1], *good red reserve*

T-72M: upgrade Russian export version: +appliqué, +skirts, +smoke; *worst red regular*

T-72M1: base Czecoslovakian export model: appliqué(+) *extremly rare very good red reserve*

1980's tec

T-62M : upgrade original version(+++): +ATGM[AT-12], +appliqué, Targeting(+)[Volna], Engine(+),Optics(+), +skirts, +smoke, ; *very good red reserve*

T-55MV: upgrade original version(+++): +ATGM[AT-10],Targeting(+)[Volna], Engine(+), +Skirts, +Smoke, optics(+), +smoke, +ERA[Kontakt]; *very good red regular*

T-62MV: upgrade original version(++++): +ERA[Kontakt]; *very good red regular*

T-72M1V: Russian upgrade Czecoslovakian export version(+): +ERA[Kontakt]; *über red reserve*

1990's tec

T-72M1V (2001): Russian upgrade Czecoslovakian export version(++): +GPS, +ATGM[AT-11(laser)], 125mm(+), 12.7(+)[remote], optics(+)[iR3000-3500m], targeting(+)[coop optics, new fcc+stab],ERA(+)[3dKontakt5], suspension(+), engine(+); *standard red guard*

21cent tec ('modern' = fire-on-the-move-hunter-killer)

T-72M1V TURMS-T: Italian upgrade Czecoslovakian export version(+++): targeting(+)[TURMS-T FCC], optics(+)[iR peri©], targeting(+)[iR+LRF+ digiFCC]; *very good red guard [CzechT-72M4 equal]*

T-90SA: Russian export model Algerian version: ATGM[AT-11(laser), 125mm Gun (modern), 7.62mm coaxMG, 12.7 AAMG, LRF, dual-axis stab, digiFCC, IR-Optics, CSGS, ERA[3dKontakt5], Shtora(export); *über red guard*

Explanation of equipment and in game function (not finished yet):

Fire Control Systems / Sight Systems

Gyrostab = Gyrostabilisator -> prescision

Targeting = Laser Range finder (LRF) -> time

fire control computer (FCC): analog(old) or digi(modern) -> precision

stabilisation (stab): normal (old) or dual-axis(modern) -> precision

CSGS - commander slaved gunner screen

optics = night vision systems: active NV (bad) or passive IR (good)

periscope panoramic

Armor

appliqué = armour consists of extra plates mounted onto the hull or turret of an AFV. The plates can be made of any material and are designed to be retrofitted to an AFV to withstand weapons which can penetrate the original armour of the vehicle.

ERA = Explosive Reactive Armour

'Shtora' (Russian: ‘curtain’) is a Russian electro-optical protection suite for tanks, designed to disrupt the laser target designation and rangefinders of incoming anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs). CMSF features the less capable passive export version with anti-IR smoke auto launcher.

[hcrof]

Wow, interesting stuff there Smaragdadler. This will definately help me in my scenario making - Thanks!

[Smaragdadler]

improvement:

T-62M -> *best red reserve*

T-55MV -> *standard red regular*

T-62MV-> *best red regular*

[Damian90]

T-72M1 is not Chechoslovakian version but Soviet, it was just better export tank rather than T-72M, both were export versions of T-72A.

Of course T-72M and T-72M1 were produced in numerous countries, like Poland, in my country in Bumar-Labedy (Bumar-Łabędy) factory were produced T-72M's and T-72M1's, i 90's some of them were upgraded to PT-91 Twardy (Hard, Strong) standard.

So as I said, T-72M1 is a soviet export version of T-72A but produced on licence in some countries.

The T-90SA have basic Shtora-1 EOCMDAS system but without IR-Emmiters, so T-90SA have better front turret K-5 cover (worth to say is many Russian T-90A's also have not installed IR-Emmiters), but have laser warning equipment and smoke granades disargers with anti FLIR smoke or something like that.

T-62M have BDD aromor on front hull glacis plate and front turret, it can be called an early multilayer armor, it is similiar in how it works to British Stillbrew armor installed on late Chieftains.

There were also T-55 models like T-55AM Merida (was used by Polish Army) that were equiped with BDD armor.

And one thing more, T-54B have an, well how to wright it in English? An course (?) machine gun for driver.

[Smaragdadler]

Thanks for info, I will implement it and name you in the credits.

All type designations are CMSF-specific and in the manual is written, these particular SYR T-72M1 are Chechoslovakian export models (license build of course).

[Damian90]

Thanks for info, I will implement it and name you in the credits.

Ho ho ho! I don't expect that but thanks! :-)

All type designations are CMSF-specific and in the manual is written, these particular SYR T-72M1 are Chechoslovakian export models (license build of course).

So yes I agree if Syrian T-72M1's are licence builds from Chechoslovakia not an original T-72M1's builded in Soviet Union.

But I must say something, my speciality are western III/III+ generation MBT's, especially M1 Abrams series, on Sov tanks my knowledge is mostly well, advanced basic if I can use such statement. ;-)

But if you have any questions, just ask, I try my best to make many things clear. :-)

[Smaragdadler]

made a little quick list for scenario designers:

CMSF Red Tanks Quick List

(by Smaragdadler)

T-54B (immobile): static 360° AT-bunker

T-55 (immobile) : static 360° AT-bunker (more ammo)

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1970's tec

T-55-1970 : standard uncon / worst reserve

T-62-1972 : bad reserve, rare

T-55-1974 : standard reserve

T-62-1975 : above-standard reserve, rare

T-72M(Early) : good reserve

T-72M : worst regular

T-72M1 : very good reserve, extremely rare

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1980's tec

T-62M : best reserve

T-55MV : standard regular

T-62MV : best regular

T-72M1V : über reserve

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1990's tec

T-72M1V (2001) : standard guard (night hunter)

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21centTec

T-72M1V TURMS-T : very good guard (hunter-killer)

T-90SA : best guard (fire-on-the-move-hunter-killer)

[Damian90]

T-90SA : best guard (fire-on-the-move-hunter-killer)

Whoa! Wait, T-90SA doesen't have real H-K capababilitie.

Only tanks that have real H-K are M1A2 and M1A2SEP, FV4034 Challenger 2, Leopard 2A5/A6, AMX-56 Leclerc, K1/K1A1 and K2, TK-90 and TK-10 and Merkava Mk.4A/B.

Partial H-K have M1A1SA and M1A1FEP thanks to TIS for CWS, but it is not a real H-K, Leopard 2A1/A4 have H-K only in day, FV4030 Challenger 1, M1, M1IP/M1A1, M1A1HA and M1A1HA+/HC have only Gunners Primary Sight Extension (GPSE) for TC so he need to use Gunners Primary Sight (GPS).

Russian tanks have optics in TC cupolla but without TIS and it is common that they doesen't have even GPSE, so capabilieties are similiar to Leo2A1/A4.

Besides this all tanks with main gun stabilisation, Fire Control System and stab for sights can fire on the move, accuracy depends on FCS quality, gun and ammo quality and gunners skills.

[Smaragdadler]

So, no red H-K in CMSF? TURMS-T? Battlefront?

[Damian90]

Oh yeah, I forget, sorry, TURMS-T have H-K capabilities. :-)

Well, the whole problem is very complex, and I don't know if my knowledge is good enough.

[Damian90]

And I forget something else.

This is very important.

In western tanks TC can override gunners instruments and take full control on FCS from his position, so he can use main weapons from his position even if gunner is kocked out.

In Russian/Ukrainian tanks (I don't consider here new T-84U Oplot-M with CITV and other upgrades) TC can use his optics and special switch to designate a target for a gunner but he can't override his instruments and he can't use FCS, main gun and coax from his station.

So i.e. even if M1A1SA doesen't have full H-K TC still can engage targets by himself so reaction is very quick, in comparision T-72M1V with TURMS-T even if have full H-K TC can't use main gun also in situation when gunners is dead or seriously wounded, and beelive me, in Russian tanks changing position in battle is almost impossible, even in western tanks is difficult. ;-)

[Battlefront.com]

Great stuff!

The T-72M and T-72M1s were purchased from Czechoslovakia, IIRC, from domestic production. But Damian90 is correct that, technically speaking, it's a Soviet tank. After the fall of the Soviet Union most countries making Soviet tanks kept at it but started adding their own changes to them. The TURMS-T is an early example of this.

Steve

[Smaragdadler]

I don't understand this fixation about the czech build T-72 beeing a russian (better than 'soviet' to hit the point in this case) design. Best Warsaw Pact tec-quality comes from DDR and Czechoslovakia. I thought you have made some modifiers for steel quality or similar for the czech build T-72? (like late war German steel quality got negative modifier for production quality decrease and sabotage in late war.)

Counter case: If someone wants to sell you this new china build Leopard 2, your main consideration for purchasing this special offer or not, don't rest with the fact that it is a german design.

For tanks spec the 'material production environment' is more important than where the blueprints come from.

[Damian90]

I don't understand this fixation about the czech build T-72 beeing a russian (better than 'soviet' to hit the point in this case) design.

This is not a fixation.

T-72M and T-72M1 were soviet designs, a export versions of T-72A for WarPac countries like Poland, DDR or Chechoslovakia. I don't know like other countries but Poland also recive original T-72's before we purchase T-72M's and T-72M1's, later in Poland, DDR and Chechoslovakia this tanks were produced on licence and also were sold to many countries, i.e. Poland sold some T-72M's and T-72M1's to Iraq. But one thing that is worth to say, T-72M/M1's for non WarPac countries were even more downgraded.

Best Warsaw Pact tec-quality comes from DDR and Czechoslovakia.

Yes and no, besides you forget Poland. ;-) We also make some good stuff in coop with Chechoslovakia like TOPAS or SKOT. :-)

The best weaponary was reserved only for Soviet forces in WarPac, well, soviets never beelive it allies in WarPac, especially us, Poles. ;-)

But export variants and domestic weapon designs were best in DDR, Chechoslovakia and Poland as you say, yeah Poland forces as soviets planned were choosen to attack Denmark. ;-)

Oh well, I only hope that my terrible english is not so hard to understand.

[Smaragdadler]

Ok.

Have a look at my upgraded Quick List (blue tanks now added):

CMSF Tanks Quick List v2.0

(by Smaragdadler)

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+1950's tec+

T-54B (immobile): static 360° AT-bunker

T-55 (immobile): static 360° AT-bunker (more ammo)

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+1960's tec+

nothing -> all upgraded to at least 70's tec level

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+1970's tec+

T-55-1970 : standard uncon / worst reserve

T-62-1972 : bad reserve, rare

T-55-1974 : standard reserve

T-62-1975 : above-standard reserve, rare

T-72M(Early) : good red reserve

T-72M : worst red regular

T-72M1 : very good red reserve, extremely rare

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1980's tec+

T-62M : best reserve

T-55MV : standard regular

T-62MV : best regular

T-72M1V : über reserve

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+1990's tec+

T-72M1V (2001) : standard red guard (very weak night hunter)

M1A1(HC) Abrams : worst U.S.Army (strong day killer)

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+21centTec+

M1A1(HC) Abrams(USMC) : worst USMC (strong day killer) with EO-Jammer

T-72M1V TURMS-T : very good red guard (very weak day/night hunter-killer)

T-90SA : über red guard (weak day semi-hunter-killer/night hunter) with pseudo EO-Jammer

M1A2 Abrams : standard U.S.Army (strong day hunter-killer)

M1A1(HC) SA Abrams : good U.S.Army (strong SatLink semi hunter-killer)

M1A1(HC) FEP Abrams : standard USMC (strong GPS day/night hunter-killer) with EO-Jammer

M1A2 SEP Abrams : very good U.S.Army (strong SatLink day/night hunter-killer)

Challenger 2 (Telic) : standard U.K. (strong long-range-snipe day/night hunter-killer)

M1A2 SEP TUSK Abrams : best U.S.Army (strong Urban SatLink day/night hunter-killer)

Challenger 2 (Enhanced): best U.K. (very strong Urban SatLink long-range-snipe day/night hunter-killer)

[Smaragdadler]

Challenger 2 (Telic) has also SatLink (FBCB2).

[Damian90]

M1A1(HC) Abrams : worst U.S.Army (strong day killer)

Strong day and night, TIS is also used both on day and night, day view is also used but common is to use TIS all the time.

M1A1(HC) Abrams(USMC) : worst USMC (strong day killer) with EO-Jammer

M1A2 Abrams : standard U.S.Army (strong day hunter-killer)

M1A1(HC) SA Abrams : good U.S.Army (strong SatLink semi hunter-killer)

M1A1(HC) FEP Abrams : standard USMC (strong GPS day/night hunter-killer) with EO-Jammer

M1A2 SEP Abrams : very good U.S.Army (strong SatLink day/night hunter-killer)

M1A1HC is standard U.S.M.C., M1A1SA and M1A2FEP have more common to M1A2SEP, M1A1HC is more common to M1A2.

All have Day/Night capabilieties, all M1A1's are semi H-K, M1A2's are full H-K.

Challenger 2 (Telic) : standard U.K. (strong long-range-snipe day/night hunter-killer)

No night H-K, FV4034 have CIV no CITV for TC.

M1A2 SEP TUSK Abrams : best U.S.Army (strong Urban SatLink day/night hunter-killer)

Challenger 2 (Enhanced): best U.K. (very strong Urban SatLink long-range-snipe day/night hunter-killer)

Both, M1A1SA/M1A2SEP with T.U.S.K.-1 and FV4034 Challenger 2 with Street Fighter kit are strong urban, CR2 (enchanced) doesen't have night H-K.

Ok, this is all for now. :-)

[Smaragdadler]

CMSF Tanks Quick List v2.1

(by Smaragdadler, credits to Damian90 for help

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+1950's tec+

T-54B (immobile): static 360° AT-bunker

T-55 (immobile): static 360° AT-bunker (more ammo)

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+1960's tec+

nothing -> all upgraded to at least 70's tec level

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+1970's tec+

T-55-1970 : standard uncon / worst reserve

T-62-1972 : bad reserve, rare

T-55-1974 : standard reserve

T-62-1975 : above-standard reserve, rare

T-72M(Early) : good red reserve

T-72M : worst red regular

T-72M1 : very good red reserve, extremely rare

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1980's tec+

T-62M : best reserve

T-55MV : standard regular

T-62MV : best regular

T-72M1V : über reserve

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+1990's tec+

T-72M1V (2001) : standard red guard (very weak night hunter)

M1A1(HC) Abrams : worst U.S.Army (strong day/night semi hunter-killer)

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+21centTec+

M1A1(HC) Abrams(USMC) : standard USMC (strong day/night semi hunter-killer) with EO-Jammer

T-72M1V TURMS-T : very good red guard (very weak day/night hunter-killer)

T-90SA : über red guard (weak day semi-hunter-killer/night hunter) with pseudo EO-Jammer

M1A2 Abrams : standard U.S.Army (strong day/night hunter-killer)

M1A1(HC) SA Abrams : good U.S.Army (strong SatLink day/night semi hunter-killer)

M1A1(HC) FEP Abrams : good USMC (strong GPS day/night semi-hunter-killer) with EO-Jammer

M1A2 SEP Abrams : good U.S.Army (strong SatLink day/night hunter-killer)

Challenger 2 (Telic) : standard U.K. (strong SatLink long-range-snipe day/night hunter-killer)

M1A2 SEP TUSK Abrams : best U.S.Army (strong Urban SatLink day/night hunter-killer)

Challenger 2 (Enhanced): best U.K. (very strong Urban SatLink long-range-snipe day/night hunter-killer)

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[Smaragdadler]

new mature update:

CMSF Tanks Capability Quick List v2.2

(by Smaragdadler, credits to Damian90 for help)

All type designations are CMSF-specific and may or may not differ from real-world one.

The tanks are ordered as classes and Tech-level .

The rating of a tank 'good/bad' makes only sense against members of his own class.

Classes from low to high are:

Special: tactical usage diverts from original intended use

Uncon: diverse trained civil, paramilitary, military and non-state actors -> heroic front-line/rear-line guerilla tactics with unpredictable but generally low-tech equipment

Reserve: trained conscripts/retired state-professionals -> worst front-line-defensive/ weak rear-line-offensive tactics with mostly second-hand equipment

Regular: trained standard professional 2nd/3th-world state-army -> standard rear-line-offensive/standard front-line defensive tactics with average equipment

Guard: elite trained and political reliable professional 2nd/3th-world state-army -> up-standard front-line/rear-line offensive/defensive tactics

U.S.Army: professional 1th-world superpower standard army -> standard front-line offensive/defensive tactics

USMC: professional 1th-world superpower imperial army for force/power projection -> up-standard front-line offensive tactics

U.K.: professional 1th-world standard defensive army -> sub-standard-front-line-offensive/ up-standard-front-line-defensive-tactics

Tech level follows decades and goes up with time. Comparison of tanks (worse/better) from different classes should only made in same Tech level.

There are also Tech-classes named after a general description of the basic tank-hull-type technology, that can not upgraded without design of new type:

lateWW2like: original design was made late in WW2, limited to precise but weak 100mm-TankGun/rifled

ColdWar: Cold War design, above 100mm/smoothbore-TankGuns possible (good for ATGM)

postColdWar: advancement comes through microtechnological production capabilities (digital instead analog FCS etc.)

Modern: computer software/hardware capabilities of FCS descide overall fighting-capabability

Postmodern : online net-work capabilities and specialisation through task-specific upgrade packages/ close defense very important

All Tanks get a general usage describtion:

bunker -> special usage not original intended for

MBT -> classic "Main Battle Tank", intended for flexible front-line usage against equivalent opponents

ATGM-MBT -> "Anti-Tank-Guided-Missile Main Battle Tank", intended for longe range front-line usage against strong opponents

night hunter -> longe range passive NV cabability for front-line defense against strong opponents

killer -> frontal one-shot-kill capability expected against all opponents

(semi)-hunter-killer -> commander can independently check for targets and override gunner, but can not shot for his own

hunter-killer -> commander can independently check for targets and override gunner and can shot for his own

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+1950's Tech+

T-54B (immobile):standard Special (static lateWW2like) -> N -protected 360°gyrostab-AT-bunker

T-55 (immobile): up-standard Special (static lateWW2like) -> NBC-protected 360°gyrostab-AT-bunker

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+1960's Tech+

nothing -> all upgraded to at least 70's tec level

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+1970's Tech+

T-55-1970 : standard Uncon / worst Reserve (very strong lateWW2like) -> upgraded-100mm/gyrostab MBT

T-62-1972 : rare bad Reserve (very weak ColdWar) -> 115mm/smoothbore/gyrostab MBT)

T-55-1974 : standard Reserve (über lateWW2like) -> upgraded-100mm/LRF MBT)

T-62-1975 : up-standard rare Reserve (weak ColdWar) -> 115mm/smoothbore/LRF MBT)

T-72M(Early) : good Reserve (sub-average ColdWar) -> 125mm/smoothbore/LRF MBT)

T-72M : worst Regular (average ColdWar) -> 125mm/smoothbore/LRF MBT)

T-72M1 : very good extremely rare Reserve (up-average ColdWar) -> 125mm/smoothbore/LRF MBT)

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+1980's Tech+

T-62M : best Reserve (strong ColdWar) -> 115mm/smoothbore/LRF ATGM-MBT) with AT-12

T-55MV : standard Regular (ultra lateWW2like) -> upgraded-100mm/LRF ATGM-MBT) with AT-10

T-62MV : best Regular (very strong ColdWar) -> 115mm/smoothbore/LRF ATGM-MBT) with AT-12

T-72M1V : über Reserve (exellent ColdWar) -> 125mm/smoothbore/LRF MBT)

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+1990's Tech+

T-72M1V (2001) : standard Guard (very weak PostColdWar) -> upgraded-125mm/smoothbore/LRF GPS ATGM night hunter) with AT-11 (tandem)

M1A1(HC) Abrams : worst U.S.Army (strong PostColdWar) -> day/night semi hunter-killer)

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+21centTech+

M1A1(HC) Abrams(USMC) : standard USMC (very strong Modern) -> day/night-(semi)-hunter-killer with EO-Jammer

T-72M1V TURMS-T: very good Guard (very weak Modern) -> GPS ATGM day/night-hunter-killer) with AT-11 (tandem)

T-90SA : über Guard (weak Modern) -> ATGM day-(semi)-hunter-killer/night-hunter) with AT-11 (tandem) + pseudo EO-Jammer

M1A2 Abrams : standard U.S.Army (exellent Modern) -> day/night-hunter-killer

M1A1(HC) SA Abrams : good U.S.Army (weak Postmodern SatLink day/night-(semi)-hunter-killer)

M1A1(HC) FEP Abrams : good USMC (sub-average Postmodern GPS day/night-(semi)-hunter-killer) with EO-Jammer

M1A2 SEP Abrams : exellent U.S.Army (average Postmodern SatLink day/night-hunter-killer)

Challenger 2 (Telic) : standard U.K. (up-average Postmodern SatLink long-range-snipe day/night-hunter-killer)

M1A2 SEP TUSK Abrams : best U.S.Army (good Postmodern Urban SatLink day/night-hunter-killer)

Challenger 2 (Enhanced): best U.K. (very good Postmodern Urban SatLink long-range-snipe day/night-hunter-killer)

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[flamingknives]

No night H-K, FV4034 have CIV no CITV for TC.

Both, M1A1SA/M1A2SEP with T.U.S.K.-1 and FV4034 Challenger 2 with Street Fighter kit are strong urban, CR2 (enchanced) doesen't have night H-K.

To be picky, the panoramic sight used on all CR2s has an II channel, so to say that it has no night H-K capacity is a bit disingenuous. The lack of TI capacity means that H-K ability is degraded in poor weather conditions though.

[Cambronne]

Smaragdadler,in your post I saw the T-55-1970.I simply cannot find it,the only nonstatic T55 I can find is the "1974"one. Where can T-55-1970 be found??? Thanks!

[Smaragdadler]

Seems it is forgotten. But T-55-1970 is explicitly mentioned in the manual. What in turn is not mentioned in the manual - but can be found in game, is the immobile original T-55 static AT-Bunker.

Battlefront?

[Smaragdadler]

I have come to the conclution, that the static T-55 Bunker in the game is actually a T-55-1970. Seems there was never the intention to implement a operational T-55. On the UI-picture in the describtion of the T-55-1970 in the manual is written T-55 (static). It's seems in some patch some ammo was added.

I also use the scipio ui-mods and my static T-55 is just marked that - T-55, without (static).

Sorry, my mistake. that means we have no mobile lateWW2like upgraded100mm/gyrostab MBT in the game and the Special section is now:

+1950's Tech+

T-54B (immobile):standard Special (static lateWW2like) -> N -protected 360°100mm/gyrostab-AT-bunker

T-55-1970 (immobile): good Special (static lateWW2like) -> NBC-protected 360°upgraded100mm/gyrostab-AT-bunker

No "old rusty Tank" for Uncons.

[Damian90]

To be picky, the panoramic sight used on all CR2s has an II channel, so to say that it has no night H-K capacity is a bit disingenuous. The lack of TI capacity means that H-K ability is degraded in poor weather conditions though.

If CIV of FV4034 have night channel but this is not TI this means that not only in poor weather conditions visibility is limmited but also in normal conditions is limited, the visibility range of nightvision is lower than TI so full night H-K is good only to, hmmm probably 800m.