Scipio Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 The manual lists a NVS 12.7mm machinegun. I assume they mean the NSV 12.7 : http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg02-e.htm Manual typo...tsk tsk tsk . Has somebody seen this in the game? Or is it used on vehicels only? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Oops! Probably my wonderful dyslexia kicking in. That and not being as good with Russian acronyms as English and German ones The poorer quality Syrian units have the NSV in their Heavy Weapons Company. It shouldn't be seen elsewhere. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Scipio, No, that would be the NSVT, in keeping with the general naming practice for vehicle mounted MGs: KPV becomes KPVT; PK becomes PKT, etc. "T" designates "tank," the ostensible primary vehicle application. I freely admit, though, to being unaware of any Russian tank sporting a KPVT, though there are lots of ACs and APCs (BRDM-2, BTR-60/70/80) so equipped. Steve, Why would the poorer quality Syrian units have the NSV, rather than the venerable Dushka? The NSV dates back to the 1980s in terms of Soviet introduction, the Dushka decades earlier. Am I somehow missing a whole generation of Russian HMGs? Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scipio Posted October 21, 2008 Author Share Posted October 21, 2008 Steve, are you sure about that? Just as a side note, when I created my weapon icons mod, I found neither a green/yellow file nor a silhouette file; but I believe there's a texture file... John, thanks for the info regarding the naming conventions! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TempV Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 John Kettler I freely admit, though, to being unaware of any Russian tank sporting a KPVT, though there are lots of ACs and APCs (BRDM-2, BTR-60/70/80) so equipped. There was T-10M, the last Soviet mass production heavy tank. It featured both coaxial and turret-mounted KPVT MGs. The NSV dates back to the 1980s in terms of Soviet introduction, the Dushka decades earlier. Am I somehow missing a whole generation of Russian HMGs? You are right, but there is newer HMG model, 12,7 mm KORD ("Конструкция оружейников-дегтяревцев" meaning "The design of Degtyarev plant gunsmiths"). Its development was forced due to NSV production center was in Kahzastan after dissolution of USSR. KORD entered mass production in 2001 and issued now to infantry and modern Russian tanks (i.e. T-90). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 TempV, Thought I had you for a moment on the KPVT issue, but when the dual Dushka equipped T-10 became the T-10M, the impressive KPVT was indeed there. Wiki concurs. Learned something new! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-10 Here's a great photo study of the T-10M by a guy with an amazing gallery online http://svsm.org/gallery/t-10 Had seen some stuff at Warfare.ru and YouTube on the KORD, but thought maybe it was a new commercial competitor to the NSV/NSVT but was still in development. Didn't realize it was in mass production for the Russian Army and very much appreciate the clarification. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondbrooks Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 No, that would be the NSVT, in keeping with the general naming practice for vehicle mounted MGs: KPV becomes KPVT; PK becomes PKT, etc. "T" designates "tank," the ostensible primary vehicle application. I freely admit, though, to being unaware of any Russian tank sporting a KPVT, though there are lots of ACs and APCs (BRDM-2, BTR-60/70/80) so equipped. Hmmmm... Are you sure about NSV becoming NSVT? I understand that 'T' comming if it's specially vehicle modificated weapon. I'm not sure if NSV has that kind model... There is wicked video of KORD in "action", as huge looking soldier (ukrainian?) walks thru smoke while firing it from hip... While wearing blue beret :cool: Now there we have terminator. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TempV Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Small wonder. KORD have comparatively little recoil for its caliber and can be fired from the bipod. And of course from the hip like LMGs though I guess this requires heavy-built man. . BTW, I've read about one Soviet tank buster whose height was 2 m and his chest was not a bit smaller. He fired his PTRS anti-tank rifle (14,5x114 mm) from the shoulder! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scipio Posted October 22, 2008 Author Share Posted October 22, 2008 I have made some testing, but the NSV has never appeared, only the DshK, no matter which equipment level or formation I've selected. Can somebody please inform the UNO and the pope about this serious issue!? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondbrooks Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Small wonder. KORD have comparatively little recoil for its caliber and can be fired from the bipod. And of course from the hip like LMGs though I guess this requires heavy-built man. . BTW, I've read about one Soviet tank buster whose height was 2 m and his chest was not a bit smaller. He fired his PTRS anti-tank rifle (14,5x114 mm) from the shoulder! Well MG bounched in his hands quite a deal after each shot. Rate of fire was pretty small as he needed his time to swing barrel back to his general front direction, so recoil indeed was there It clearly was done for humor not to be taken seriously. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Secondbrooks, Wiki says we're both right. You'll see why when you read it. But back when I was a Soviet Threat Analyst, the intel docs said the NSV was the ground mount and the NSVT was on tanks as the AA mount. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSVT Modern Firearms, though, agrees with what the threat docs said, i.e., there is no tank mounted NSV, only the NSVT with the listed mods in the link here. http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg02-e.htm Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondbrooks Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Oh. Damn, well ofcourse it needs some modifications (additional parts) if it should be able to be fired from inside a tank :mad: NSVT (Tank) is basically similar to the NSV except for the special mounting. NSVT machine guns are used mostly as roof-mounted AA / self-defense weapons on Soviet and Russian main battle tanks. The special tank mount has a buffered cradle, electrical (solenoid-operated) trigger, traverse and elevation mechanisms and a special collimating sight. EDIT: NSV is NSV when it's on AA-mount. NSVT is specially Tank inserted MG, with ability to fire from inside tank. This is what i gather. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Secondbrooks, The developmental and deployment stuff from the same site on the KORD is fascinating, especially the breakthrough lightweight bipod mount 6T19. That would sure put some teeth in a raiding unit. Gack! Presume ZID = Zavod (factory) imeni (named for) Degtyarov. http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg24-e.htm Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scipio Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 *Bumb*, cause I still wasn't able to find the NSV machinegun in the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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