Redwolf Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 The GeForce 4 are usually considered best for CM play, many CMers shoot them off ebay. If ebay is not your thing here is a 4200 for $56: http://www.arsenalpc.com/Details.asp?ItemID=2453&Res=2 Do not get a FX 5200 if you need price/performance, and no ATI 9100/9200 or similar (apart from the always present driver trouble for ATI). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally's World Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 I agree! I just bought myself a Ti4200-8x to replace my old GeForce3 Ti200. Got a nice 34% increase in my 3DMark score. Ti4200's should be able to overclock to just about a Ti4600's speed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted November 28, 2004 Author Share Posted November 28, 2004 Overclocking never worked for me when I tested hard enough. But this is a nice CM card even at stock speed and at $60 you can throw away an ATI card if you have one and get fog. It will even play Half-Life 2 at decent framerates, just with less wow-ing graphics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voidhawk Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Agreed; I have a Ti4200 with 64M and it works just fine with all versions of CM at 1280x1024 with 4xS AA. The 4xS AA is great for removing the "sparkly" textures when scrolling around a map. I found the anisotropic setting worked but produced artifacts around the edges of sharp lines, such as the targetting lines. I do still use a much older driver (3.0.8.2) as with newer versions I experienced "blurry" (double) in-game text such as the landscape labels etc. Perhaps the current drivers have resolved all these issues; I don't know and would rather not experiment as what I have now works just great and I don't play any other games anyway. I mean, who does - wouldn't that come out of CM time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Canuck Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Thanks Redwolf, just ordered one to replace the trusty G3 Ti200. I'd given up on finding one btw. KC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted November 29, 2004 Author Share Posted November 29, 2004 How much do they want to shipping? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Beaman Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Whats wrong with the FX5200? I just bought one! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Canuck Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Originally posted by Redwolf: How much do they want to shipping? They wanted $22.00, but, the buggers e-mailed me back later saying that card had sold out prior to their processing my order. grrrr To make matters worse they tried to upsell me to another, more expensive, card. KC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally's World Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Krazy Canuck: Here is where I bought my Ti4200-8x card. Price is more expensive, but it is in Canadian dollars and the card is brand new. Card arrived in about 8 days and runs perfectly, even overclocked! No problems with these guys at all. When I ordered one last month, they had one card left after my order so I would phone them first to see if they have any left. Or better yet, use the LiveHelp function on the right side of the page. http://www.bytewizecomputers.com/products/7/21/617/1539 [ November 30, 2004, 12:14 PM: Message edited by: Wally's World ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junk2drive Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 I did a google search Saturday and Bizrate etc had prices over $100 so it sounded too good to be true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 Doh. Very sorry, I should have guessed that they would jerk people with the shipping cost. $22? Give me a break. Sold out was predictable, this link went around a number of forums with GeForce 4 lovers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 Originally posted by Ralph Beaman: Whats wrong with the FX5200? I just bought one! Nothing broken or anything, it is just a very slow card. A GF4 at the price quoted would have much better price/performance. The advantage of the 5200 compared to a GeForce 4 would be that it has hardware support for Direct3D 9 features. But since it is too slow to run any DirectX 9 games that is of no use either. The 5200 is probably just fine for Combat Mission, and antialiasing should be supported at good speed, too. With both NVidia and ATI you always need to keep in mind that the slower cards of a new series (5x00 versus 4x00) are actually much slower than the high-end cards of the old series. The low-end cards of each series are usually so underpowered that they cannot effective drive the new games which they are meant for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Canuck Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Originally posted by Wally's World: Krazy Canuck: Here is where I bought my Ti4200-8x card. Price is more expensive, but it is in Canadian dollars and the card is brand new. Card arrived in about 8 days and runs perfectly, even overclocked! No problems with these guys at all. When I ordered one last month, they had one card left after my order so I would phone them first to see if they have any left. Or better yet, use the LiveHelp function on the right side of the page. http://www.bytewizecomputers.com/products/7/21/617/1539 WW, Thanks, I've been watching their site. For just over a 100 bucks more I can get the 5900XT which, IMO, is the best bang for my buck. It may be time for a complete upgrade soon anyways. For $54.00 US + shippimg the Chaintec was a helluva buy though, as j2d said, "to good to be true" I guess. Thanks guys, KC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally's World Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Krazy Canuck: Regarding your thinking of the 5900XT, here's a quote from Tom's Hardware Guide website regarding that card. I have no opinion of this card but maybe Redwolf does. GeForce FX5900 SE/XT, GeForce PCX 5900 Pros- DX9 support, excellent DX8 performance, good AA/AF peformance Cons- poor DX9 performance, and you can get a Radeon 9800 Pro for little more, which is a better card in every area. Radeon X700 Pro (and of course faster GeForce 6600GT, Radeon X700XY) is a much better choice in PCI express segment. Tom's Hardware Video Card Guide Post 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Canuck Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Originally posted by Wally's World: Krazy Canuck: Regarding your thinking of the 5900XT, here's a quote from Tom's Hardware Guide website regarding that card. I have no opinion of this card but maybe Redwolf does. GeForce FX5900 SE/XT, GeForce PCX 5900 Pros- DX9 support, excellent DX8 performance, good AA/AF peformance Cons- poor DX9 performance, and you can get a Radeon 9800 Pro for little more, which is a better card in every area. Radeon X700 Pro (and of course faster GeForce 6600GT, Radeon X700XY) is a much better choice in PCI express segment. Tom's Hardware Video Card Guide Post WW; I'm a Nvidia fan, this from Sharky Extreme Our previous value guide brought with it a much-needed video card upgrade, and this month we don't see any reason to change. The NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900XT 128-MB has finally slid down into range of our value guide, and we're pleased because this card is not far removed from the upper mid-range. It's basically a lower-clocked GeForce FX 5900 Ultra, and includes the same core design and features, along with a 256-bit memory interface. It's also where the best price-performance ratio exists in the current market, especially as the Radeon 9800 Pro 128-MB continues to be priced just out of our reach. .. KC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally's World Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Krazy Canuck: I'm with ya also in regards to being a nVidia fan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 If the FX 5200 is "underpowered", what about the FX 5500? It is priece at $80. The FX 5200 is priced at $50. http://www.pcclub.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A9602746 I am the one with the Vaio which has the on-board video, which does not work. So I am looking to see what type of card I can put in the AGP slot. The Viao has a 2.2 Ghz CPU. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted December 1, 2004 Author Share Posted December 1, 2004 I have a 5900XT, which is not that good for Half-Life 2 but about for everything else. If could bring myself to buy a 6x00 less than a 6800 GT 256 MB. srynas, I didnt test a 500 myself yet, but hav ea look here http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2195&p=3 That chart gives you the actual performance-relevant numbers, as opposed to the "5200" and "5500" marketing numbers. A 5500 is only marginally better. It probably has even worse price/performance than the 5200. What kind of games do you play? Do you tend to play high quality on lower framerates or higher framerates at low resolution/quality? And check your Sony that it has a full-hight AGP slot. Sony and Dell sometimes have half-height slots, then you can only use a very narrow set of cards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally's World Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 Here's a great video card comparison with a lot of cards being tested. Unfortunately this thing is from December of 2003, but it does show how the early FX cards stack up against the GeForce 3 and 4 cards. Warning: Sometimes it takes a little bit of time to load due to so many pics. Video Card Comparison - December 2003 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted December 2, 2004 Author Share Posted December 2, 2004 http://www20.graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031229/vga-charts-06.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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