John Kettler Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Troops, I've recently had the opportunity to watch the former (at max difficulty) and play a bit of the latter on the X-Box. Several things stood out. Black Intensity's unbelievable (friend said "nearly had a heart attack'), made moreso by the deformable terrain (be careful what you use for cover!). RPG fire's scary. Opponents seem harder to kill than should be the case given some of the weapons used (how many times can a head endure a .308?) The terrain is gritty and realistic, but its utility is greatly marred by the complete absence of character ability to jump, climb other than ladders or stairs, or to go prone. Worse, the friendly troop AI is awful, and there's no provision for issuing orders to your own men. Ghost Recon:FW Lots of great techno features (including manportable recon drone, satellite feed), but also marred, not least by VO pratting which doesn't contribute anything to the mission. Info window appears smack dab over your weapon sight in the middle of a full blown attack on your position! No prone mode in X-box game, but is in the 360. No jumping or climbing in this one, either. Really hate that elite forces can't do routine infantry actions, let alone special ones! No provision seen for issuing orders to other friendly forces. Was playing cooperatively with my friend. Helmet mounted threat display symbology repeatedly obscured targets during firefights. Not good! Use of cover has clever peek out feature. Sniper weapons are gutted by absence of bipod, bracing on an object, steady stance, etc. Optics modeling takes a 1000 meter plus weapon down to less than 100 meters, compounded by absence of variable zoom/usable range of magnifications. Time and again, I went from 2x (couldn't really see) to 8x (way too much mag and consequent loss of situational awareness). Sight image stabilization is a bear. Supposedly, there's a way to hold your breath and steady the crosshairs, but we never found it (X-Box 360? only). Got so bad I stuck to the battle rifle. This isn't complete by any means, but I believe much of use, both good and bad, could be learned from those games. There seems to be a great lepa backwards setting in game designers. Star Wars Battlefront did many things better than either of these games, and going prone was there from the beginning. Thoughts? Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joques1 Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Originally posted by John Kettler: Ghost Recon:FW Lots of great techno features (including manportable recon drone, satellite feed), but also marred, not least by VO pratting which doesn't contribute anything to the mission. Info window appears smack dab over your weapon sight in the middle of a full blown attack on your position! No prone mode in X-box game, but is in the 360. No jumping or climbing in this one, either. Really hate that elite forces can't do routine infantry actions, let alone special ones! No provision seen for issuing orders to other friendly forces. Was playing cooperatively with my friend. Helmet mounted threat display symbology repeatedly obscured targets during firefights. Not good! Use of cover has clever peek out feature. Sniper weapons are gutted by absence of bipod, bracing on an object, steady stance, etc. Optics modeling takes a 1000 meter plus weapon down to less than 100 meters, compounded by absence of variable zoom/usable range of magnifications. Time and again, I went from 2x (couldn't really see) to 8x (way too much mag and consequent loss of situational awareness). Sight image stabilization is a bear. Supposedly, there's a way to hold your breath and steady the crosshairs, but we never found it (X-Box 360? only). Got so bad I stuck to the battle rifle. Are these two different games on the Xbox and the 360? Cause most of these complaints are not there in the 360 game. Info window popping up in mid screen? No. Jumping? Well, you can jump over obstacles. If you want "bunny jumping", head on over to Quake. Control over other friendly forces? Yes. And yes, there is a command to steady the sniper rifle, but I don't remember what. It is readily explained during gameplay, however. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joques1 Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Aha, I just checked the review at Gamespot, and the Xbox version got a mediocre review score while the 360 version got a stellar review. Huge differences in the two games, apparently, and the reviewer pointed out the same flaws that you did. I'm happy I played the 360 version 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 And I'm off to buy the PC version in about 5 minutes (I thought the demo was fun) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PseudoSimonds Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 I've been playing it on the 360 (in between long sessions of Oblivion). So far I'm very impressed. Except maybe that first helicopter mission. I had to repeat that one...well.. a lot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Originally posted by PseudoSimonds: Except maybe that first helicopter mission. I had to repeat that one...well.. a lot. *spoiler alert* Ooh the one with the carpark and stuff? That was tough!!! :eek: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmatt Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 As was mentioned above, the Xbox and 360 versions are actually very different. So much so, that they used different developers to code them. Unfortunately, I only have an original Xbox so I was less than impressed with Future Warrior. I had heard good things about it which is why i bought it, but those opinions were apparently based only on the 360 version... To be honest, I think I only ever played it one time then went back to Black, which I like a lot, although it is kinda short and some of the levels are made harder (more frustrating) because of the crappy "checkpoint" save system. Of course when I really want a challenge, I simply play HALO 2 and only use the energy sword... Madmatt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted May 20, 2006 Author Share Posted May 20, 2006 Madmatt, Good to hear from you! Energy sword only, eh? too funny! Anyone contemplating Black on "Hard" should seriously consider incontinence protection, for it's nothing less than harrowing. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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