Cogust Posted April 26, 2002 Share Posted April 26, 2002 Bah! No Finn will beat me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treeburst155 Posted April 28, 2002 Author Share Posted April 28, 2002 The finals will begin in about five hours. Well, two-thirds of the finals anyway. We're still working on one of the scenarios. It will be ready shortly. In the meantime, we'll get this ball rolling again. If you are the Allied player you will receive only your briefings and a password for each game. If you are Germans you will receive all this plus the .cmb saved game file. The German player will start the PBEM game with this file. As previously mentioned, you can expect files in about five hours. Good Luck, Gentlemen!! Treeburst155 out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuomas Posted April 29, 2002 Share Posted April 29, 2002 # Fluid Tuomas v Cogust Ari v Mattias # Twin_Valleys Ari v Tuomas Cogust v Mattias # Scenario_3 Tuomas v Mattias Cogust v Ari There is something wrong with Nabla's side opitimization rutine. If you exchange Ari and Mattias you can clearly see, that then everyone plays twice the other side and once the other. Now Mattias plays the latter thrice. I think that there was a quirk like this even in the original sections. Somebody was sore about having to play the allies four times. (Ofcourse nobody would have complained if they had had the germans four times.) I seem to remember that if you would have exchanged sides in one of the scenarios then there would have been three players playing allies thrice and three playing germans thrice. Although I'm not certain about that one, but atleast in the finals the algorithm did'nt work as planned. From the modest input I have seen the algorithm seems to make certain that everyone plays the first side (number of scenarios)/2 rounded up so 3/2 = 2. When one player can't do this the algorithm leaves him on the second side one time too many. Well that's atleast what I have gathered. Any better ideas? -TNT- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treeburst155 Posted April 29, 2002 Author Share Posted April 29, 2002 The schedule is optimized with the following considerations applied: 1) Every player plays every scenario one time 2) Every player plays every other player one time 3) Equal comparisons of players (play same side of scenario) Number 3 is the reason Mattias ends up playing the Germans all three times. Treeburst155 out. [ April 28, 2002, 09:33 PM: Message edited by: Treeburst155 ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogust Posted April 29, 2002 Share Posted April 29, 2002 Well, the rest of us plays Germans once each and if we rock while playing Krauts (and such otherwise), then I think Mattias will have a tough time as he will always find himself below the median. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattias Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 I don't follow one bit... If you wanted the players to play both sides why didn't you just manually switch my side in one of the games? How could it matter which side I play if the Nabla system works as it is supposed? And since when did playing the Germans yield an easy victory or improve a players quality? Doh...? M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogust Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 The only thing I can come to think of is if Mattias is an extremely good Axis player and a very lousy Allied player. It might be tru, but I doubt it as he has proceeded this far in the tournament. If he would've sucked as Allies, then I don't think he would have reached the finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treeburst155 Posted April 30, 2002 Author Share Posted April 30, 2002 Mattias, If you look at the schedule in columns you will notice that each player has his score compared to every other player one time. This has to be done deliberately. We don't want the same two players to play the same side of a scenario several times because the highest score achieved from a given side gets the playoff point. If one guy was compared three times to the same good player it wouldn't be fair. It is difficult to explain clearly in a short post. I will explain in more detail if you would like. Treeburst155 out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattias Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 TB.. Reading my post again I realize that it might sound like I am complaining. That, however, is not the case Firstly I was wondering why you couldn't just switch places if someone wanted to play another side. Something you explained here. Secondly I was wondering what Cogust meant by saying that I would be at a disadvantage, or indeed advantage, by playing the Germans three times. -- In any case.. No problem M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treeburst155 Posted May 3, 2002 Author Share Posted May 3, 2002 Just a bump. I assume everyone received their files for all three playoff scenarios? Treeburst155 out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treeburst155 Posted May 11, 2002 Author Share Posted May 11, 2002 Bump from Page 6! Treeburst155 out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattias Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 All three scenarios running, on, approximately, turn 16, 4 and 1. Very, very tricky scenarios M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuomas Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 Finally I am waiting turns and not vice versa. Especcially Mattias made this difficult. I must also say that I find the scenarios too very intriguing. -TNT- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmatt Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 This thread is getting close to the 300 message mark so I am going to close it down now. Feel free to start a new one. Madmatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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