Lawyer Posted November 10, 2001 Share Posted November 10, 2001 They did in real life with the 29th Division, according to "Closing with the Enemy". Can they do it in CM? Thanks for any info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wreck Posted November 10, 2001 Share Posted November 10, 2001 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawyer Posted November 11, 2001 Author Share Posted November 11, 2001 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Wreck: No.<hr></blockquote> I didn't think so. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombinedArms Posted November 12, 2001 Share Posted November 12, 2001 I love CM and think they did a great job with most things, but bocage is a bit problematic in several ways: 1) Engineers did blow holes in bocage in real life, but not in CM. 2) Once they came up with the right hardware for it, Sherman tanks could punch holes in bocage, but they would leave a large permanent hole that infantry could pour through or other tanks could use. Not in CM. 3) Bradley ordered that one in four US Shermans be equipped with rhino gear for the St. Lo offensive but the mechanics had limited time and were working with ad lib materials (such as scrap from Normandy beach obstacles) and didn't quite reach that goal. But in CM all US and British (and Polish and Canadian) tanks including TDs, have this facility, as I understand it. I don't believe anyone but the Ami's put on rhino gear in real life. I'm sure BTS was aware of all this and simply found a more accurate modeling too complex to be worth it. Still, a more realistic handling would have been nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyrene Posted November 12, 2001 Share Posted November 12, 2001 I also don't like the fact that the TacAI is not smart enough to avoid obstacles like bocage and barbed wire - Sometimes you will plot movement just a little too close to either and you end up stuck. Gyrene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl Carrot Posted November 12, 2001 Share Posted November 12, 2001 I hate that as well. I guess they get their cardigan caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombinedArms Posted November 12, 2001 Share Posted November 12, 2001 If you plot a course for an infantry to walk along the edge of bocage but plot your line too close, the infantry squad will try to walk head-on through the narrow band of bocage (as if it were walking on a very thick road) without ever taking a step to the side and walking in the clear. That's maddening in practical terms and also confronts you with the fact that you're dealing with a game engine (which CM so magically manages to avoid in most circumstances.) I hope they fix this for CM:BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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