Dschugaschwili Posted October 26, 2002 Share Posted October 26, 2002 In a QB with variable rarity, it seems that infantry units are subjected to price adjustments just like any other unit. However, there doesn't seem to be a way of noticing this other than looking at the actual price for units on the right side of the screen. Will this be changed in version 1.01? Dschugaschwili PS: if you don't believe that rarity affects infantry, try the following parameters: May '44, central region, high quality SS infantry, variable rarity. The Füsilier squad is identical to the Rifle squad, but they sometimes have different costs (base cost for a veteran squad seems to be 35 when bought as a platoon). You may have to try a few times to get different costs, but they definitely change between different games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted October 26, 2002 Share Posted October 26, 2002 Good catch. I hadn't noticed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dschugaschwili Posted October 28, 2002 Author Share Posted October 28, 2002 Bump. Does anybody know something about this? Dschugaschwili Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyBen Posted October 28, 2002 Share Posted October 28, 2002 Thanks for pointing this out, by the way... I had wondered if rarity affected infantry. If, as you suggest, it does, it's fairly important that the effect is shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dschugaschwili Posted October 28, 2002 Author Share Posted October 28, 2002 The problem is: how should it be shown? I don't know where the infantry rarity kicks in. At squad level? Or at platoon level? And what value should be displayed for mixed platoons/companies/battalions? The only satisfying way of displaying infantry rarity that I can think of would be adding a rarity column to the right side of the purchase screen (where the units you have bought are displayed). Then you could see the rarity values for every unit in a larger formation you consider buying. Dschugaschwili Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 The rarity effects the price at all levels; squad, company and battalion. I don't really see why the infantry rarity can't be displayed just like the rarity for all the other unit types. The real questions I'm wondering about is why is it hidden how, and why doesn't anybody seem to care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renaud Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 I guess my question is why would anyone care if rarity is displayed for anything. After all, knowing the % change due to 'rarity' doesn't affect my purchase choice. My choice is determined only the perceived usefulness of the unit in the expected battle situation and it's final cost relative to everything else. That June 1941 88's are horrifically expensive is the important thing, not the rarity %. On the other hand, it is interesting historical information. So I just answered my own question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 The whole point of rarity by price manipulation is to discourage people from buying rare units. If people don't know if its rare or not it rather diminishes the effect. Knowing how usefull the unit will be in the expected battle situation depends on knowing what the battle situation will be. If a number of setting are set to random this cannot be known with any degree of certainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmatt Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 Infantry rariety is NOT displayed in v1.01. Will it be in 1.02? I don't know. Madmatt [ November 13, 2002, 06:32 PM: Message edited by: Madmatt ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 Originally posted by Madmatt: Infantry rariety is NOT displayed in v1.01. Will it be in 1.02? I don't know. MadmattOk, thanks for the update. But, if I may ask, why is it not displayed? Is it a bug? A design decision? What is the rational behind it? It makes no sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dschugaschwili Posted November 14, 2002 Author Share Posted November 14, 2002 Originally posted by Vanir Ausf B: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Madmatt: Infantry rariety is NOT displayed in v1.01. Will it be in 1.02? I don't know. MadmattOk, thanks for the update. But, if I may ask, why is it not displayed? Is it a bug? A design decision? What is the rational behind it? It makes no sense to me.</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 EDIT: Ah, ok. I see the problem. I'm not sure how to solve that. [ November 14, 2002, 05:38 AM: Message edited by: Vanir Ausf B ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 Ok, here's a simple idea. When purchasing formations that contain more than one infantry type, the rarity for the predominant infantry type in that formation will be used for all infantry in that formation. Yes, that means some infantry will sometimes have a different rarity if purchased in a formation rather than individually, but I don't see a problem with this since it will generally be less rare within the formation than without, therefore encouraging purchasing by formation (that's a good thing, right?). It's certainly a lot better than having it hidden, which I find extremely annoying. Opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Manuel Posted November 14, 2002 Share Posted November 14, 2002 It's nice to know the rarity % if you establish a cutoff w/ an opponent, i.e. nobody buys any unit w/ rarity% higher than 30%, etc. I same could be done w/ infantry, which would have the effect of excluding Sturmkompanie, maybe Armored Infantry, Regimental SMG Plt, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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