Hans Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 In the west a warships name is preceded by USN, HMS, IJN or RNN etc, what were/are the initials used for Soviet warships in WWII and merchant craft? (for use in a coastal based CMBB scenario) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalin's Organ Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 AFAIK there was none. Nothing is mentioned in Jurg meister's "Soviet Navy of WW2" or in Fred T Janes' "The Imperial Russian Navy" (first pub 1905) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted December 24, 2002 Author Share Posted December 24, 2002 how odd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Don't think German warships use indicators like yours today, or during the 3rd Reich (they did during imperial times - SMS), and I am reasonably certain that in Japanese you would not have the IJN in front of e.g. 'Akagi'. That would not be necessary because all the merchant marine ships are already identified by the suffix 'Maru' (meaning 'circle' I think) behind their name. I think it is more the US and the UK who are the odd ones out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soddball Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Originally posted by Andreas: Don't think German warships use indicators like yours today, or during the 3rd Reich (they did during imperial times - SMS), and I am reasonably certain that in Japanese you would not have the IJN in front of e.g. 'Akagi'. That would not be necessary because all the merchant marine ships are already identified by the suffix 'Maru' (meaning 'circle' I think) behind their name. Or 'Mu' (meaning 'I ran out of paint). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike8g Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Originally posted by Andreas: Don't think German warships use indicators like yours today (...)They do ! "FGS", which stands for "Federal German Ship" Marcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mies Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Andreas wrote: I think it is more the US and the UK who are the odd ones out? The Dutch navy uses HMS nowadays and I think they used that during WWII too. Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Originally posted by mike8g: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Andreas: Don't think German warships use indicators like yours today (...)They do ! "FGS", which stands for "Federal German Ship" Marcus</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JunoReactor Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Originally posted by Andreas: I dont know whether it is true or not, but if it is, this could be due to NATO requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike8g Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Andreas, FGS is the official designation, though it is not shown for easier reference. I'm an officer of the German Navy and believe me, every ship has even more designations. Some of them you'll never find on public websites. Let's a take an example: Name: Niedersachsen Class: Fregatte Hull number: F 208 Type designator: FFAH National identifier: FGS International callsign: DRXX (changed) You'll use combinations of these items as required for each purpose. Public designation: Fregatte Niedersachen Communication lists: FGS Niedersachen International public comms: DRXX (changed) Tactical lists: FFAH Niedersachsen Tactical (short): F 208 However, when officially addressing a German warship via comms (non tactical), you'll have to use the prefix "FGS" and this is to confirm NATO standards. Marcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Manuel Posted December 24, 2002 Share Posted December 24, 2002 Dunno 'bout the prefix, but I believe that the Russians call their ships "he" rather than "she." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Jones Posted December 25, 2002 Share Posted December 25, 2002 In the west a warships name is preceded by USN, HMS, IJN or RNN etc, what were/are the initials used for Soviet warships in WWII and merchant craft?Actually the USN uses USS, not USN. Like USS Enterprise for example. I think it stands for United States Ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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