Volker Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Can you? Can I use AP for Tank's and HE for Inf? Or does it do it for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aka_tom_w Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Originally posted by Volker: Can you? Can I use AP for Tank's and HE for Inf? Or does it do it for you?it does it for you Tac AI takes care of that -tom w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiggDogg Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Yep, that little commander in the tank has a brain and tells the loader which type of ammo to load. In fact, that teenie commander does a pretty good job of matching ammo to target. Cool, isn't it. :eek: :eek: :eek: Cheers, Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Yes, except that your teeny little commander will not use real-world™ tactics, such as "pick and shovel" (one AP followed by one HE) against dug in troops. Apart from anything else, things like that would help limited HE loadouts last longer. Being able to specify a ROF would help too. Regards JonS [ April 23, 2002, 12:04 AM: Message edited by: JonS ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscript Bagger Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Originally posted by JonS: Yes, except that your teeny little commander will not use real-world™ tactics, such as "pick and shovel" (one AP followed by one HE) against dug in troops.Should it be obvious why this is an effective tactic? I'm missing something... :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Originally posted by Offwhite: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JonS: Yes, except that your teeny little commander will not use real-world™ tactics, such as "pick and shovel" (one AP followed by one HE) against dug in troops.Should it be obvious why this is an effective tactic? I'm missing something... :confused: </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Originally posted by Offwhite: Should it be obvious why this is an effective tactic? I'm missing something... :confused: Basically, what Brian said. The AP 'pick' breaks up the cover, then the HE 'shovel' moves it. The process was repeated until the position stopped resisting. Brian - LOL on why 14th Army used the reverse approach I suspect other armies used a similar technique ... for the same reason! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscript Bagger Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Makes sense. I guess I was thinking only of the "below ground level" aspect of being dug in, not the sangar/bunker/head log/other cover part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward_n_kelly Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Originally posted by JonS: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Offwhite: Should it be obvious why this is an effective tactic? I'm missing something... :confused: Basically, what Brian said. The AP 'pick' breaks up the cover, then the HE 'shovel' moves it. The process was repeated until the position stopped resisting. Brian - LOL on why 14th Army used the reverse approach I suspect other armies used a similar technique ... for the same reason!</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtz Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Originally posted by Brian: First round is a ranging shot, effectively and once "on", second round follows immediately. Won't AP and HE (in most cases) have different trajectories? Or is this tactic meant to be used on short distances where this shouldn't be that much of a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Both right! Award yourselves a coveted Gold Star or would one of you like a Hippo stamp? Its a shame this tactic is not available in CM. I'd like to be able to nominate what round to fire if I want. I definitly want to be able to stop my tanks from wasting inappropriate ammunition against the wrong targets. I've often had a tank run out of HE and keep firing AP at infantry targets in the open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Originally posted by Kurtz: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Brian: First round is a ranging shot, effectively and once "on", second round follows immediately. Won't AP and HE (in most cases) have different trajectories? Or is this tactic meant to be used on short distances where this shouldn't be that much of a problem?</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traject0ry Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Hmm, the ammo type selection should ofcourse be available to the player thus overriding the tac AI when necessary. Then again most tanks are equipped with adequate MG's to deal with the infantry (to keep their heads down - eliminating them is another matter) as with many modern tanks which often simply carry very small amounts of ammunition well suited for anti-infantry fire. Thus using MG's and not the main weapon to suppress soft targets is prolly the solution offered by the game designers in order to save the main gun ammunition for a more "proper" use. This ofcourse does not fully compensate for the firepower of the 105mm gun or even 75mm but hey, it is a game after all... BTW, what's a trajectory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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