MajorTaktik Posted September 30, 2002 Share Posted September 30, 2002 After several QBs I started all had damp ground even though I chose warm/hot clear weather in the middle of summer, I started to wonder. There is no place to select the ground conditions in the QB setup screens. Are ground conditions randomized even if weather is perfect in the middle of summer? This started to get annoying, since I wanted to play games in good tank country and weather. Any insights on this? I figured ground conditions would be selectable just like the other weather factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted September 30, 2002 Share Posted September 30, 2002 I second the request. Let us select. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorTaktik Posted September 30, 2002 Author Share Posted September 30, 2002 Well, it gets more interesting. I just ran over 20 test QBs. Ten times I chose Central region, hot, clear weather in June and EVERY time the ground was damp. 10 times I chose South, hot, clear weather in June and each time then the ground was very dry. Testing further, I chose fall and early winter months and no matter which region selected, the ground was damp even though parameters were hot and clear. It seems sometimes dry weather is possible in the South region, but not so in Central when creating a QB. Does this qualify as a bug? I don't want to test this 100 times, only to prove what seems apparent already based on 30 or so QB setups. Why is it abnormally damp despite setting parameters to the contrary? Thanks for any help with this. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted September 30, 2002 Share Posted September 30, 2002 You must have gotten caught in the Pripyet Marshes. Just for interest, try it again in July or August and see what happens. As I recall, in the AGC AOO it rained a lot in June so that even if it weren't raining on the day your battle took place, the ground could still be wet. Michael [ September 30, 2002, 01:34 PM: Message edited by: Michael emrys ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorTaktik Posted September 30, 2002 Author Share Posted September 30, 2002 Originally posted by Michael emrys: You must have gotten caught in the Pripyet Marshes. Just for interest, try it again in July or August and see what happens. As I recall, in the AGC AOO it rained a lot in June so that even if it weren't raining on the day your battle took place, the ground could still be wet. MichaelSo then, are ground conditions randomized but weighted based on region/date? Does anyone know that this is coded into the game or is it just a hunch? What happens when you are sick of damp ground in the Central region in June? It would seem a parameter for this is necessary. If I want good weather with good ground conditions in June in a hypothetical QB battle, then I shouldn't have to generated a few dozen QBs till I get that setting. Importing custom maps will serve as a workaround for this but it shouldn't have to come to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWB Posted September 30, 2002 Share Posted September 30, 2002 Ground conditions are tied to region. Well, all the map stuff is tied to region really. Importing QB maps will not help as they pick up weather, region and ground condition info from the QB parameteres. I agree with the idea of a combo-box for ground conditions. In reality there should be snow on the ground in Russia mid-October thru mid-march but the only way to get that is to set the parameters to snow or blizzard for the battle. WWB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorTaktik Posted September 30, 2002 Author Share Posted September 30, 2002 Originally posted by wwb_99: Importing QB maps will not help as they pick up weather, region and ground condition info from the QB parameteres. Crap! Thats true. Just auto-generated a map; June 42 dry ground conditions, clear weather, Central Region. Imported it into a QB with June 42 clear weather, Central region and it still came out DAMP!!!! A ComboBox for ground conditions in QBs is top of patch item list Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Posted September 30, 2002 Share Posted September 30, 2002 See post under QB turn limit. Slightly different theme but same point - it would be nice to be able to select snow on ground and fog for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted September 30, 2002 Share Posted September 30, 2002 If it is a feature it is a misfeature, IMHO. The menu for the Quicbattle parameters should have and may default to "according to timeframe and region", I think that would serve everybody fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Crowley Posted September 30, 2002 Share Posted September 30, 2002 Hope I'm not speaking out of turn, but I do believe Madmatt(?) made an announcement that adding ground conditions to QB paramaters was a possibilty for the patch. Don't remember where exactly I saw it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameroon Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 Originally posted by James Crowley: Hope I'm not speaking out of turn, but I do believe Madmatt(?) made an announcement that adding ground conditions to QB paramaters was a possibilty for the patch. Don't remember where exactly I saw it though.Well, if you're mis-remembering something than I am too I also seem to recall such a comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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