birdstrike Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 The T19 HMC seems to have an awfully low amount of ammunition: only 8 rounds (whereas the T30 HMC carries 60, the M7 Priest 69). That's barely enough for the crew zero in on a target - let alone score a hit. Is this historically accurate? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Could be that there wasn't much room inside that halftrack after they put the howitzer and the crew in there. That doesn't mean they had to stop shooting after eight rounds were fired though. Chances are they were accompanied by an ammo halftrack that carried lots of shells. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidbvr Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Hello one and all Yep M3 ammo track or truck would be along for the ride if i am correct one ammo track to 3 T19 nice site to have a look at gives the ammo load outs to the whole M series take a peek http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/105mmhmct19.html " If life is a bowl of cherrys .... What are the stones in aid of ???" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdstrike Posted February 1, 2004 Author Share Posted February 1, 2004 Thanks, Rabidbvr. That's a great link! Perfectly answers my question. Lots of interesting stuff. Bookmarked it at once Originally posted by Michael Emrys: Could be that there wasn't much room inside that halftrack after they put the howitzer and the crew in there. This 105mm must've been a real monster to make that much of a difference between the T30 and the T19. Or maybe they should've used smaller crewman - there should have been a sign on each of these vehicles like "Service personnel must not exceed 5'4''." Now if only there was an ammo truck in the game... [ January 31, 2004, 06:51 PM: Message edited by: birdstrike ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Originally posted by birdstrike: there should have been a sign on each of these vehicles like "Service personnel must not exceed 5'4''." Quite. And who, then, would be lifting the shells into the breach, that being the case.... :confused: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnergoz Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 There's quite a difference in size between the complete 105 round and the 75. You can pack a lot more 75's in there, even for a halftrack. Another reason to limit the T19's load was the fact that the halftrack chassis was overloaded with the howitzer itself and didn't have much reserve capacity for ammo, which is pretty heavy in and of itself. The M7 was a whole different story, being built on the M3 tank chassis. All in all, these halftrack conversions were not considered very successful and were stopgap solutions in any case. Only the M3 GMC with the 75mm was relatively long-lived, being used as a second-line support weapon in other theaters than Europe. Happily, the halftrack AA variants, in particular the ones with the Maxon 50 cal turret, did very well. The turret and ammo was a better match for the halftrack's load carrying capacity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidbvr Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Hello one and all Slight change from halftracks but you may find it a good read more load outs for ya... http://www.onwar.com/tanks/ hope people like it Happy hunting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidbvr Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 and again here is a very nice site well put together forgot i had it http://www.military.cz/panzer/index_en.htm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdstrike Posted February 1, 2004 Author Share Posted February 1, 2004 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: And who, then, would be lifting the shells into the breach, that being the case.... :confused: Hmm, good question. Maybe by climbing on each other's shoulders? Or they could use tiny ladders - no that would require too much space. Then it's the shoulder-climbing, definitely. gunnergoz: thanks for the info , I always forget about the weight of these guns - must've been like a piano transport by bike. Rabidbvr: And thanks again for the links. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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