phil stanbridge Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Hey guys need a little advice here I'm a bit confused by this. I have just played and completed a Quick Battle - Romanian V the Soviet AI. I won the game by the skin of my teeth, but the casualties screen is what is confusing me. After the battle I took a look at the casualties on screen, and there are the remnants of 2 Soviet Pioneer squads, plus one ran off map - suggesting that I was facing a platoon? This was only a 300 point battle however, and I was up against heavy machine guns, a tank destroyer and BA vehicle too. I had the advantage in troop numbers, not the AI, so can the AI delegate single squads rather than entire platoons in his force mix? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brent Pollock Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Is it possible that: 1. you just missed the platoon HQ during the end-of-battle review (did you "+" key through both sides?) 2. more units ran off map than just the one your lads were able to observe? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil stanbridge Posted August 7, 2006 Author Share Posted August 7, 2006 It surely is possible that the teams ran off map - but how expensive would a Crack Pioneer team be to the soviets in Jan 44. Take into account they only had 300 points, and fielded a SU74, BA, 1 x HMG (at least) along with a couple of LMG by the looks of things. More importantly, they only had 37 men on the field in total? Is that right, or do you add the 8 KIA to the number too? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Regimental Pioneer Platoon has two squads. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Russian force, all crack (high quality chosen randomly I suspect) - 1 SU-76M 1 BA-64B Regimental Pioneer Platoon 1 12.7mm HMG (or Maxim, possibly) 2 DP LMG 261 points, +29 for standard rariety gives 290 points. Vehicles crews are 4+2 = 6 men, pioneers are 3+9+9 = 21 men, MG crews are 6+2+2 = 10 men, total 37 men. The unit you saw exit the map was the HQ. The AI rarely picks its forces well or uses all its points, especially in low point total battles. It typically starts by filling out the armor and vehicle screens within its force type budget, then buys whatever infantry it can with what is left, and rounds out with teams. Clearly, unless the SU-76 proves completely invulnerable, this force has no chance against a full company of infantry. The rifles and MGs are barely enough to cast a net of eyes and ranged fire to interdict open ground, if completely defensive and stationary. Since instead the AI will try to advance as long as there is a single flag it does not hold... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil stanbridge Posted August 9, 2006 Author Share Posted August 9, 2006 Jason, you never cease to amaze me! You are spot on as far as I can tell. I love playing the AI in small engagements for this reason alone - it's crap at picking a good force, which makes it easier for me! I could of course pick the enemy force too, but that would take half the fun away for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalgiris 1410 Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 Out of interest, phil what kind of Rumanian units did you have exactly to deal with this AI force and when was the quick battle set? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil stanbridge Posted August 10, 2006 Author Share Posted August 10, 2006 I was using a crack Ski infantry company, two towed 76.2mm guns and a R35. Set in January 44, dawn, snowy conditions. Here's pic (I took over 20) and produced a basic AAR for my forum. I wanted to show people how much fun you can still have with the minor nations! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalgiris 1410 Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Cool thanx for the pic Phil. Actually I really like going the Rumanians myself, then the Finns. That's why I was wondering. Do tell me though, did the R35 nab the BA & SU-76 or one of the towed guns? :cool: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil stanbridge Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 One of the 76.2mm guns knocked the BA out - but the R35 took out the SU, upper side shot if I recall. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DREVAK Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Hey there, Phil, I was wondering what "skin" is that (and perhaps if a similiar one exists for AK as well)? Looks pretty cool (and more eyes pleasing than the default one I might add )! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalgiris 1410 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Originally posted by phil stanbridge: One of the 76.2mm guns knocked the BA out - but the R35 took out the SU, upper side shot if I recall.Wow, the L/21 37mm R35 gun KOed armour! How very unusual. Actually I've used them a bit during 41 for the Rums because they are relatively rather effective against all that light obsolete stuff that the Russians started with. (T-26s & BTs) They are well protected in comparison and probably most importantly practically invulnerable to the ATRs, unlike the R2s / T-35s. However for all that I always found them to have a tendancy to run out of ammo too quickly in a stand and shoot out. PS: BTW DREVAK I think that the Rumanian trucks come with those cool skins IIRC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junk2drive Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Originally posted by DREVAK: Hey there, Phil, I was wondering what "skin" is that (and perhaps if a similiar one exists for AK as well)? Looks pretty cool (and more eyes pleasing than the default one I might add )! If you are talking about the UI, it is by Tarkus and at cmmods. I'll ignore your sig... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DREVAK Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Originally posted by junk2drive: If you are talking about the UI, it is by Tarkus and at cmmods. I'll ignore your sig... [/QB]Yep, the GUI is what I meant, checked cmmods and found it, thanks for the info! And sorry for sort of hijacking the thread ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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