Scipio Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 Just an idea... Ever attempted to point somebodys view on something...you know, like 'Hey, look at that funny tank at 1000m away to the left. No not there, more to right, left of that great tree. No, not that tree, the other one...'. Just wonder how a (non area) target command to a buttoned tank (with it's limited view) can work in reality...just wonder if it wouldn't make sense if target commands to buttoned tanks can be given only as 'covered arc' command. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eichenbaum Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 You don't point to trees ore something, You say "enemy tank at 3 o'clock" or "Feiandlichen Panzer 3 Uhr!" ore something. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scipio Posted August 15, 2003 Author Share Posted August 15, 2003 ...what wouldn't necessarily cause a better result... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scipio Posted August 15, 2003 Author Share Posted August 15, 2003 and BTW, isn't it excatly that what is done with a 'covered arc'?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eichenbaum Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 Originally posted by Scipio: and BTW, isn't it excatly that what is done with a 'covered arc'?? No, the cover arc is meant for "Shoot only at targets between point A and B". LOS of a buttoned tank comes from every hole in the tank where the crew can see through. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eichenbaum Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 Originally posted by eichenbaum: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Scipio: and BTW, isn't it excatly that what is done with a 'covered arc'?? No, the cover arc is meant for "Shoot only at targets between point A and B". LOS of a buttoned tank comes from every hole in the tank where the crew can see through. If one says, enemy at 3 o'clock is doesn't have to mean that this is in the area target.</font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scipio Posted August 15, 2003 Author Share Posted August 15, 2003 Just that a buttoned tank has no full surround view. But I can order a tank to target something that's right behind him. No I wonder how I can do this...except the commander is an owl. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destraex1 Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 Target Three Infantry. slight left. 200m. Reference clump of trees with black bark If a crew is used to working with one another their should be no problem. However your right its not a perfect system and things change quickly in the real world. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destraex1 Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 As for seeing out the back of the tank and telling the crew to target something. If the commander can see it their is no problem guiding the gunner or tank to turn into it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 Errr, I think this is completely backwards. You are talking not of spotting the enemy tank in first place, but of the TC telling the gunner what to shoot at after the TC spotted it. There is not difference in difficulty here for buttoned or unbuttoned since the gunner is always using the same sights. And the copula is not that bad for 360 degrees sight as long as the tank isn't moving and the object to be seen is about at normal ground level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 Originally posted by redwolf: And the copula is not that bad...Uh-oh, redwolf's tanks are copulating. The next thing we know there'll be little tankettes all over the place. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 Darn, that's what you get from posting Friday evening. I actually spellchecked and the checker liked it. Sorry if I hurt anybody's feelings 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 Originally posted by redwolf: I actually spellchecked and the checker liked it.That's the problem with spell checkers. They are wonderful things, but they are no substitute for careful proofreading. In this case, the spell checker liked 'copula' because there is an actual word in English that is spelled exactly that way. The spell checker didn't know that what you meant to write was really 'cupola' (I presume; correct me if I err). Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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