Hans Posted August 31, 2003 Share Posted August 31, 2003 I was in Budapest in May. Unfortunately I escaped my work related activities for only an hour to take a look at the museum. This one picture was amusing as it shows that "whatja ma-callit" they created for upgrading the 37mm. From what I can understand from the label, it seems to have been used by the Hungarians up to 1944? Hungarian speaking grogs??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted August 31, 2003 Share Posted August 31, 2003 That's the 3,7-cm-Stielgranate 41, a muzzle-fitted hollow charge grenade (present in CMBB from Jan '42). A way of providing the ATG companies some more measures of countering the T-34 menace at a time when Pak 38 wasn't as common and Pak 40 not available. It weighed 8,5 kg, could penetrate 180 mm and had an effective range of 300 m. And was prone to misfires. I would guess májusában is a conjugation of May, panceltoron probably means anti-tank gun or men. Prokurawánál might be a place name (sounds more Polish than Hungarian to me). Yes, it is very late date for such. :confused: [ August 31, 2003, 01:08 PM: Message edited by: Sergei ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardosy Posted September 1, 2003 Share Posted September 1, 2003 "The 1st Mountain Division's anti-tank company's 1936 pattern (designed in 1936) 37mm anti-tank gun near Prokurawa in May 1944." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted September 1, 2003 Share Posted September 1, 2003 Hey I made a pretty good guess, no? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_Tiger Posted September 1, 2003 Share Posted September 1, 2003 Yeah, you are great... The effective range was more something around 100 meters. Better than nothing, if you ask me. One of the advantages are the light weight and the possibility to change the position after firing the gun. Allways better than to climb on a tank... :cool: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardosy Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 Originally posted by Sergei: Hey I made a pretty good guess, no? Yeah! You are very good hungarian speaking... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardosy Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 Hans! How coud you take pictures in the museum? If I take my Canon, a lot of guard start shauting: NO PHOTO!!! Guard: I mean old women with very bed voice... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 Originally posted by bardosy: Guard: I mean old women with very bed voice... "Bed voice", eh? Is that anything like bedroom eyes? Interesting tastes you have there, bardosy. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted September 2, 2003 Author Share Posted September 2, 2003 Ah you will note there is only one picture. After the first one I was blitzed by guards speaking the unspeakable in Hungarian. My DD form 2 A certainly didn't impress them! They had a number of puzzling photographable items there that would have been amusing to Cm'ers! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 Originally posted by bardosy: Yeah! You are very good hungarian speaking... Well we Fenno Ugrians gotta keep together! Hungarian seems very cozy language to me because there's no Indo-European style separate prefixes like "on", "in", "na", "za" etc. but like in Finnish, all that is added to the words. Like house = talo, in house = talossa. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scheer Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 Hi all, lots of these hollowcharge " Stielgranate " could be found in museums in the normandy. Seen one in Bayeux, one in Oustreham, one in ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardosy Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 Originally posted by Sergei: Well we Fenno Ugrians gotta keep together! Hungarian seems very cozy language to me because there's no Indo-European style separate prefixes like "on", "in", "na", "za" etc. but like in Finnish, all that is added to the words. Like house = talo, in house = talossa. Yes, and we have some same words, I think... One of my favorite (non-wwi) movie is Night on Earth, and in this say the finnish taxi driver: "Minne menne" (or something near) and it's very close to the hungarian language (go = menni) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardosy Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 Originally posted by Hans: Ah you will note there is only one picture. After the first one I was blitzed by guards speaking the unspeakable in Hungarian. hehehe... You have very good reflex. I had no time to take one. I used to visit this museum frequently. I love hear stupidity what tell the fathers to theirs sons. Once somebody told his son about an optical distance-meter, this is a bazooka. And do you remember the big guns at front of museum? Every father tell his son the hungarians defend the Castle with these guns against the turkish. But the hungarians never defend the Castle against the turkish, because the turkish captured the Castle with trick (cheat). And this guns are from India in the 19th century, when the turkish are very far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted September 2, 2003 Share Posted September 2, 2003 Originally posted by bardosy: Once somebody told his son about an optical distance-meter, this is a bazooka.Well, if you didn't look too closely, a bazooka might look a little like a range finder. Maybe the old geezer had bad eyes, or wasn't too sound in the brain pan. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bab Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 We might actually turn this into a Hungarian-speaking topic! Halihó Lackó 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaBellum Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Originally posted by bab: We might actually turn this into a Hungarian-speaking topic! Halihó Lackó Or a thread about good Goulash recipes! Isn't it called Pörkelt in hungarian? I could need a good recipe, autumn is coming... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bab Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Originally posted by ParaBellum: Or a thread about good Goulash recipes! Isn't it called Pörkelt in hungarian? I could need a good recipe, autumn is coming... [/QB]I hate people whose only faint memory or idea about Hungary is the gulyás, especially when they can't spell it correctly. (BTW, pörkölt means stew ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaBellum Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Originally posted by bab: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ParaBellum: Or a thread about good Goulash recipes! Isn't it called Pörkelt in hungarian? I could need a good recipe, autumn is coming... I hate people whose only faint memory or idea about Hungary is the gulyás, especially when they can't spell it correctly. (BTW, pörkölt means stew ) [/QB]</font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Originally posted by bab: I hate people whose only faint memory or idea about Hungary is the gulyás...There was this little Hungarian cafe on 3rd. Ave. when I was in Manhattan 30 years ago that had terrific spinach soup. But frankly, I didn't think their gulyás (to use your spelling) was so hot. They did have pretty good meat loaf though. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardosy Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 A lot of years a go I made a survey about "what is your stereotypes (topic) about Hungary?" The answers was fun: from the "blond girls" to the "lot of mathematics and turkish bath". What are your stereotypes about Hungary??? I think a CM player have other one, then a simple non-hungarian. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bab Posted September 4, 2003 Share Posted September 4, 2003 Originally posted by bardosy: A lot of years a go I made a survey about "what is your stereotypes (topic) about Hungary?" The answers was fun: from the "blond girls" to the "lot of mathematics and turkish bath". What are your stereotypes about Hungary??? I think a CM player have other one, then a simple non-hungarian. I'm interested too, so bump I go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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