Trommelfeuer Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 I thought it would work this way in an operation: After battle 2, the statistic shows the casualities of battle 1 + battle 2, after battle 3 the statistic show the casualities for battle 1 + 2 + 3, etc... But this theory does not seem to work in my current operation... casualities Battle 1 607 men O.K. 35 casualities 17 KIA 1 vehicle lost casualities Battle 2 746 men O.K. 11 casualities 23 KIA * Is it possible that casualities like lightly wounded soldiers recover between battles ? * Why is my lost vehicle ( Psw 232 ) not in the casuality list for battle 2 ? Greeetings, Sven 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzman Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 You only see that losses which you have taken in the battle in question. You will see total losses at the end of the operation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 1) Yes, KIA losses are permanent but others eventually return to service. 2) Dunno, in one operation I destroyed two T-26's. I took special care to pump extra sounds into them so they'd show up as "knocked out" instead of "abandoned". Yet one of them was evacuated by the enemy between the battles. Wasn't what I expected. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Originally posted by Panzerman: You only see that losses which you have taken in the battle in question. You will see total losses at the end of the operation. Are you sure? I seem to have had different experiences, often the losses displayed at the end of battle two have been greater than what I actually lost during that battle. Take for instance the scores displayed above. How could the KIA during one single battle be greater than total casualties (KIA + wounded)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone_Vulture Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Originally posted by Sergei: 2) Dunno, in one operation I destroyed two T-26's. I took special care to pump extra sounds into them so they'd show up as "knocked out" instead of "abandoned". Yet one of them was evacuated by the enemy between the battles. Wasn't what I expected. Um, the way I remember it you have to "cook" the vehicles to be insured that they are unsalvageable. This means that the vehicle has to burn by the end of the battle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trommelfeuer Posted December 8, 2003 Author Share Posted December 8, 2003 Thanks a lot for your answers! But please compare the casualities above with the statistics below: Operation Störfang - Mission Swartzekätze Battle 1 Casualities: 529 men O.K. 5 casualities. 3 KIA 1 aircraft lost Battle 2 Casualities: 774 men O.K. 16 casualities 12 KIA 1 vehicles lost 1 aircraft lost ( I lost one aircraft in the first battle but I didn't lose any aircraft in the second battle - there simply was no air support at all because of bad weather - but both figures include 1 aircraft lost...) Battle 3 983 men O.K. 18 casualities 22 KIA 1 vehicles lost 2 aircraft lost (..another aircraft lost in this round, maybe an Emil or a Stuka...) Battle 4 1091 men O.K. 77 casualities 32 KIA 3 vehicles lost 3 aircraft lost And another aircraft lost in this round, which is a total of 3 aircraft lost / destroyed during this operation. - If I "... only see that losses which I have taken in the battle in question." then the total would be 4 aircraft lost in the operation...or am I missing something... Greetings, Sven 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eichenbaum Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Originally posted by Trommelfeuer: And another aircraft lost in this round, which is a total of 3 aircraft lost / destroyed during this operation. - If I "... only see that losses which I have taken in the battle in question." then the total would be 4 aircraft lost in the operation...or am I missing something...Greetings, Sven There are 4 aircrafts availabe in the whole operation. This would certainly be a loss of 100%. It looks like those Russian AA guns were very effective I think you have lost 3 aircrafts. The AAR of battle 4 has given the final result. [ December 08, 2003, 06:31 PM: Message edited by: eichenbaum ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Originally posted by Trommelfeuer: Thanks a lot for your answers! But please compare the casualities above with the statistics below: Operation Störfang - Mission Swartzekätze Battle 1 Casualities: 529 men O.K. 5 casualities. 3 KIA 1 aircraft lost Battle 2 Casualities: 774 men O.K. 16 casualities 12 KIA 1 vehicles lost 1 aircraft lost ( I lost one aircraft in the first battle but I didn't lose any aircraft in the second battle - there simply was no air support at all because of bad weather - but both figures include 1 aircraft lost...) Battle 3 983 men O.K. 18 casualities 22 KIA 1 vehicles lost 2 aircraft lost (..another aircraft lost in this round, maybe an Emil or a Stuka...) Battle 4 1091 men O.K. 77 casualities 32 KIA 3 vehicles lost 3 aircraft lost And another aircraft lost in this round, which is a total of 3 aircraft lost / destroyed during this operation. - If I "... only see that losses which I have taken in the battle in question." then the total would be 4 aircraft lost in the operation...or am I missing something... Greetings, Sven Theorem 1: The casualties are the "permanent" casualties. A unrecoverable vehicle or aircraft destroyed in battle 1 is still destroyed in battle 1. Somebody killed stays killed. Wounded may recover. "Proof": a) the stats for those increase over time. Try a battle without a fight and look at the stats. c) The kill - casualties ratio is 1:3 Theorem 2: Wounded return or you get replacments for them. ...But I dunno if the injured returning in battle 2 are counted in the overall count. Gruß Joachim 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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