tar Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Thought you might like to see a period photo of US Shermans outside St. Vith. Picture from the US National Archives. [ April 30, 2003, 03:00 PM: Message edited by: tar ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakthrough Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 Nice pic. Thanks. Now if some Modder could have Telly Savales head sticking out of the turret hatch..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcm1947 Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 Cool photo. No pun intended. Man that looks cold. Now I remember why I live in Texas. We know stuff like that is out there but that's all we want to know about it. [ April 30, 2003, 10:46 PM: Message edited by: lcm1947 ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Talker Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 Yep, in Texas we whine if temps drop into the teens. I can't imagine living in stuff like that. Yuck. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tar Posted May 1, 2003 Author Share Posted May 1, 2003 And here in LA, we don't like the 40s. Back to the tanks. I can just imagine how well all that metal conducts the cold. And how long it will take to warm up 30 tons of armor... [ May 01, 2003, 02:00 AM: Message edited by: tar ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 That's actually a colour photo; there are better scans of it out there on the net and in books. Looks even colder in colour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Ace Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 I've seen that pic before... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 It's from a series of photo's of the US 7th armoured division. The vehicles displayed here are from 40th Tank Bn of that division. It is taken near St Vith, as has been pointed out already, immediately after the US counterattack in that area. It's cold alright, but what is a little difficult to see here is that they are all painted with whitewash, creating that totally-frozen appearance. Closer inspection will reveal that they have snow only on their flat surfaces, such as the turret roof and so on. The same series of photo's display infantrymen of the division, wearing white snow smocks. Including pants. One rarely sees Americans in snow smocks on photo. Most helmets are painted with whitewash too. Another photo displays an American tanker, admiring the ruins of St Vith, who has obviously somehow been able to steal an American Pilots jacket. Looks real warm. I'm amazed he'd let himself be photographed in it. Especially as these photo's were published. But then again one cannot see his face. It is interesting not least to compare with another series of high quality colour snapshots, taken at about the same date. This series display US paras - doesn't say which unit in my source here - in the French alps. They're out excercising some. What's interesting is that they are also wearing snow smocks, but from an entirely different cut than the 7th Amd infantrymen. Looks like real coats rather than overalls, with fur lining even. It has a hood with fur lining too. The Paras have skis on some photos, but at the risk of hurting a lot of feelings, one really really gets the impression that they'd be far better of walking Perhaps they're Texan then? Looks like real nice skis though. Nothing like the German standard issue wooden planks. Americans were always so spoiled with equipment (no Lee, we'll not discuss Panthers right now ) Wait a minute. Didn't they send the Texan division to fight in the Italian mountains? You know where it's really, really cold in winter, so cold your eyelids grow small icicles. And where temperatures never reach teen calibre in the summer... That's interesting. Did Eisenhower ever make any statements concerning Texans, like how he felt about them? Cheerio Dandelion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpkr Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 Originally posted by Code Talker: Yep, in Texas we whine if temps drop into the teens. I can't imagine living in stuff like that. Yuck. Eh? You must have been one of those poor souls who felt the great ice age came to Texas a couple of months back. Try visiting Amarillo in January or February. St. Vith has NUTHIN' on panhandle blizzards. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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