John Kettler Posted June 1, 2001 Share Posted June 1, 2001 Some QB's ago, one of my Humbers, which was unbuttoned at the time, took a crew casualty and became shocked. When it became unshocked, I couldn't get it to target the MG anymore. The vehicle data says that the MG is a "bow MG." If so, why would a crew casualty, presumably to the commander, stop the use of the bow MG while buttoned? Is the placard in error? Is the MG really a roof mount? Could use some grog input, please. Regards, John Kettler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiJoe Posted June 1, 2001 Share Posted June 1, 2001 Good question. 3 man crew = 1 x driver, 1 x bow machine gunner, 1 x commander. If the commander gets his head shot off whilst unbuttoned the gunner should still be able to fire the MG. The only reason I can think of why this wouldnt be is if the bow gunner jumped into the commander's station. But if he did this you should be able to unbutton the afv after 1 crewman is killed but not use the bow MG. Possable VERY minor bug that could be looked at for CM2 light afvs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted June 1, 2001 Author Share Posted June 1, 2001 KiwiJoe, It definitely wouldn't unbutton after taking the crew casualty, but I believe that there's a hard and fst rule which says an AFV will never unbutton after taking a crew casualty of any sort. Regards, John Kettler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiJoe Posted June 1, 2001 Share Posted June 1, 2001 You are right... In cm 1 crew hit means perm buttoning for all afvs. This obviously means that no1 steps into the commander's postion, or you would in fact be able to unbutton agian (after a short delay). Thus the Humber should be able to use its hull mounted MG after losing the commander as the commander has nothing to do with firing the MG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted June 1, 2001 Share Posted June 1, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KiwiJoe: You are right... In cm 1 crew hit means perm buttoning for all afvs.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Actually, this is not true. From the CM readme file under 1.1 changes: * M3A1 Halftrack, M3A1 Scout Car, and M5A1 Halftrack are not forced to remain buttoned up after suffering only one crew casualty. However, Humbers are not mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalin's Organ Posted June 1, 2001 Share Posted June 1, 2001 Wasps have the same problem - 3 crew, but can't use the f/thwr if commander is killed. But I dunno how many ppl of thet crewed the f/thrwr itself - I'd guess jsut the one....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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