Guest Madmatt Posted February 4, 2001 Share Posted February 4, 2001 Originally posted by von Lucke: Will this cover all the other German 20mm armed AC's as well? (Hope so, 'cuz they all use their turreted gun like an AA field piece!) No it will not. Charles looked up data on the 234 and 250/9 and they can apparently elevate the gun mount 70 degrees upward. That would point to the fact that they could be used in a Anti-Air roll apprarently. Madmatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Germanboy Posted February 4, 2001 Share Posted February 4, 2001 Originally posted by Stoffel: speaking of Tungsten rounds,in a recent PBEMgame I had a pak38 with a Tungsten round. Can that be a bug as well?(1.1 version) AFAIK, these game with some Wolfram rounds. Some real Grog can probably confirm that. ------------------ Andreas Der Kessel Home of „Die Sturmgruppe“; Scenario Design Group for Combat Mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Lucke Posted February 4, 2001 Share Posted February 4, 2001 Originally posted by Madmatt: No it will not. Charles looked up data on the 234 and 250/9 and they can apparently elevate the gun mount 70 degrees upward. That would point to the fact that they could be used in a Anti-Air roll apprarently. Madmatt Heh --- amazing the things you can learn if you bother to look them up before you speak: According to the Encyclopedia of German Tanks of WW2, both the Sd Kfz 250/9 and the Sd Kfz 234 mounted the hangelafette (swinging mount) turret that allowed for an elevation of +70 to +85 specifically to engage aircraft. Well, after that example of anti-Grogdom (groginess?), you can take what I have to say about the 50mm PaK38 with a grain of salt. But, as I recall, the 50mm gun was supplied with PzGr40 rounds because it needed them to be effective at range, whereas the German 75mm guns already had enough muzzle velocity with standard rounds to defeat most Allied armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AussieJeff Posted February 4, 2001 Share Posted February 4, 2001 Hi Matt, Any progress on that problem I found in v1.1 regarding AFV's shooting long from high elevations to low elevations against non vehicle targets? Basically, If you have confirned the problem, I am wondering whether it would be fixed in the upcoming 1.12 patch. Cheers, AussieJeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Madmatt Posted February 4, 2001 Share Posted February 4, 2001 It wasn't a true problem Jeff. It's just a really bad angle and in my own tests (and map) I could never duplicate it with the same results. I (and Charles) actually saw them score several direct hits when I ran the test repeatedly. Madmatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Napoleon1944 Posted February 5, 2001 Share Posted February 5, 2001 No mention of BTS fixing the bug that removes all of the buttons after being dropped from TCP/IP on occasion. This has happened a few times in gameplay with my opponents as well. ------------------ The only enemy I fear is nature. -Napoleon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aka_tom_w Posted February 7, 2001 Share Posted February 7, 2001 still looking for v1.12 every morning Maybe by this weekend??? just curious -tom w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tss Posted February 7, 2001 Share Posted February 7, 2001 Andrew Hedges wrote: The Germans...or some Germans...go to India and observe the same short-haired tiger. However, the Germans also notice that this species of tiger is the *largest* species of tiger in the world. Apparently those Germans were pretty sloppy. Either they didn't bother to research that the largest tiger species is actually the siberian tiger (or however it is named in English) or they had really poor maps. - Tommi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted February 7, 2001 Share Posted February 7, 2001 tss: Quite right, the siberian tiger is the largest type. Perhaps the Germans meant the largest kind in the Indian jungle? Mattias: I didn't know that the JgPz IV (L48) had it's armor value incorrect in CM. If Charles is aware of this, I'm surprised he doesn't have it in his list of fixes for the v1.12 patch. It would be a simple matter of just changing the number from 60mm to 80mm, I assume that would just take a few seconds to do. Perhaps Charles isn't aware of this problem, Mattias? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dar Posted February 7, 2001 Share Posted February 7, 2001 Hot damn! This is fantastic... Kudos to BTS (yet again!) for continuing to improve what is already the best damn wargame to date. ------------------ Dar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clark Posted February 7, 2001 Share Posted February 7, 2001 I'm hoping for this weekend for the patch... Keep fingers crossed... ------------------ "Fear is for the enemy... Fear and Bullets." "They didn't want to come... but I told em, by jeepers, it was an order." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andrew Hedges Posted February 8, 2001 Share Posted February 8, 2001 Originally posted by tss: Andrew Hedges wrote: Apparently those Germans were pretty sloppy. Either they didn't bother to research that the largest tiger species is actually the siberian tiger (or however it is named in English) or they had really poor maps. - Tommi Maybe any tiger that you encounter in the wild is the biggest tiger? I'm pretty sure my etymology is correct, so maybe they didn't know of the Siberian Tiger, or maybe the guys who named the Tiger didn't know of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattias Posted February 8, 2001 Share Posted February 8, 2001 Lee, Yes the late JgPz IV (L48) armour in CM is only 75% of what it should be in reality. Personally I'm all Buddhist about it though. I just keep repeating it and sooner or later BTS will spot it M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted February 8, 2001 Share Posted February 8, 2001 Well, if Charles is aware of it, I'm sure he will take the 1 minute necessary to fix it. It's not like it would delay the patch coming out or require any programming, just a simple number change. I'm surprised Steve or Charles hasn't taken care of this before, if you've been telling everyone about it for so long, you'd think it would have been noticed by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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