Kanonier Reichmann Posted November 11, 2000 Share Posted November 11, 2000 If you've got 'em, use 'em is my view on this. Put yourself in the position of the tank commander of a Sherman whose armour is renowned for being as effective against German AT shells as tin foil. Wouldn't you be loading that Tungsten at the earliest possible opportunity if the choice was life or death? Regards Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maj. Bosco Posted November 13, 2000 Share Posted November 13, 2000 The ballistics are slightly different but at the ranges that a sherman can actually kill a heavy german tank it won't make that big a difference. As for their desire to flank and use normal AP that does not take into account the special situations that every CM battle is based on. That is, the situation is very closely balanced. In reality there were many more shermans than there were panthers or tigers. In CM you're probably going to have about a 1 to 1 ratio. In that sort of a situation the use of tungsten is vital. Otherwise the sherman just doesn't have the penetration to take out heavy tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlow Posted November 13, 2000 Share Posted November 13, 2000 Given that American gunners can't seem to part with their tungsten, (at least until they part with their flaming Sherman altogether), I wonder if the tungsten rounds are stored in a glass case labeled "in case of emergency, break glass." Or maybe it’s a bit more ritualistic: TC to crew: Hark, a Tiger approacheth. TC to loader: Bring out the Holy Tungsten Round. Loader to TC: Here it is my liege. TC to loader: Place the Round into the breach without delay. Loader to TC: it is done. TC to gunner: On the count of three, thou shalt fire the Holy Tungsten Round. Not Four, Not Two, but Three is the number thou shalt count …. ------------------ The reason that the American Army does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the American Army practices chaos on a daily basis. - Anon. German General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Heidman Posted November 14, 2000 Share Posted November 14, 2000 ...and the sergeant did raise upon high the Holy Tungsten Round, saying, "Bless this Oh Lord, thy Holy Tungsten Round, that I might smite thine enemies Tigers into little pieces, in thy mercy, Amen..." Jeff Heidman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Lakowski Posted November 14, 2000 Share Posted November 14, 2000 "The 90mm gun was credited with penetrating the Panther's front from 600 yards .But even this was disputed in a later test. The 703rd Tank Destroyer Battalion with M-36 Tank Destroyers firing in early december 1944 was only able to make penetration about half the time at ranges of 150-300 yards . In addition , the commander of the 703rd concluded that the 90mm was ineffective against the King Tigers frontal armor". [pp 106-107 FAINT PRAISE Charles M Bailk.] It also points out that supplies of HVAP ammo in the fall of 44 was limited to 2 rounds per month supply to all users, so having 3-4 per tank per engadgement sounds like a 'pipe dream'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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