killmore Posted March 28, 2000 Share Posted March 28, 2000 75mm vs 57mm AT - which is better for killing tanks? 57 seems quite usefull. I even have seen pictures of King Tiger killed by 57. (side shots) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guachi Posted March 28, 2000 Share Posted March 28, 2000 I believe that the 57mm was a little better AT wise than the 75mm that was mounted on the Sherman. The 75mm has a vastly beter HE shell, though. I think that is why many cehicles were switched from the 6pdr (57mm) to the 75mm gun. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabot Posted March 29, 2000 Share Posted March 29, 2000 Are you referring to the American 75mm or any one in general? IMO the German 75mm AT was Vicious. I liked the way the Germans used it in a mobile role during the desert war. I'm sure it was equally deadly in the bocage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattias Posted March 29, 2000 Share Posted March 29, 2000 The 75mm M2 and M3 gun looks to be inferior in all sources, even when the 6 pounder is using basic ammunition. When the latter is loaded with APDS the lead opens up further. I think I remember reading that the APDS rounds were quite a bit less accurate though, strangely enough... Manufacturing problems mayhap. While on the subject... The 75mm Mk V used in British tanks had about the same modest penetration capabilities as the US counterpart when using the standard APC round. However there is one or two sources indicating the presence of a APCBC round, which looks to have been quite a bit more powerful (plus 50% actually). Now, the problem is that this gun, for some reason, is almost never listed in the myriad of gun performance charts available. And hard facts are hard to come by when it comes to British tanks. Anyone out there have any more info on this gun or the APCBC round and it’s prevalence at the time of the campaign in the west? M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killmore Posted March 29, 2000 Author Share Posted March 29, 2000 I was interested in general. But I guess it really matters only for Alllies. Germans did not have a need for heavy AT weapons on Western front. So I see that 57mm is better then 75mm for allies. What about StuG 75mm vs German 57 AT gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted March 29, 2000 Share Posted March 29, 2000 Here is a link with some gun comparisons: http://www.mobilixnet.dk/~mob75281/ga/guns/gunstats.htm Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KwazyDog Posted March 29, 2000 Share Posted March 29, 2000 Im going from memory but I believe in CM the 57mm firing an AT round is almost excatly the same as the Sherman 75mm AT. If I recall the 57mm does do a couple mm's extra, especially at close range. Considering how many other factors are taken into account in CM though, whats a mm here and there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KwazyDog Posted March 29, 2000 Share Posted March 29, 2000 Actually, just to add to that, the HE blast power of the 75mm is almost double that of the 57mm. The 75mm is a great building knocker overer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostro Posted March 29, 2000 Share Posted March 29, 2000 Ron: Very interesting site, Ron. It looks like StuG's 75 is only a little better than 6 pounder in AT rol, and far better using HE rounds (far more HE weight) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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