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This has probably been discussed before, but I couldn't find it with the search engine.

I don't have much luck with them usually.

So here is my question.

Is there ever going to be a way to put snipers (and/or MGs) into the towers of the churches that every scenario seems to have?

It would be really nice to put someone (like an arty spotter) up there so you could get a good view of the surrounding country if nothing else.

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Guest Ol' Blood & Guts

The ruling on this is that buildings, no matter how many stories they appear to have (including church towers), only have two levels. An upper and lower level.

There has been discussion about this before and so to have buildings with multiple floors would require some major code changing in the way buildings are modeled. This might be a feature to be added later for CM2, or as an enhancement patch as later CM versions/sequals are developed.

[This message has been edited by Ol' Blood & Guts (edited 05-19-2000).]

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Love to see the whole new affect of targeting difftent levels of buildings...(Franz, Target the bell tower to get that damm amni sniper)

Ohhh eve having multible levels of destruction.. Destroying the top floors of a 2nd story buildings. and leaving the ground floor alone.

Hummmm.....

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Speaking of church towers being #1 target spots, I remember reading in Stephen Ambrose's D-Day, how all the Allied artillery spotters would call in artillery right away on church towers even if they knew nobody was up there because it was most likely that an Axis FO would be up there.

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I saw once on a show about the Leaning Tower of Pisa that it came very close to being destroyed by American artillery. They interviewed the individual who would have been responsible for the order and he said he wouldn't have hesitated for a second if so much as a hint of German positions in the Tower had been suspected.

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WWIIRulz:

Speaking of church towers being #1 target spots, I remember reading in Stephen Ambrose's D-Day, how all the Allied artillery spotters would call in artillery right away on church towers even if they knew nobody was up there because it was most likely that an Axis FO would be up there.

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I'm reading a book on the battle for Geilenkirchen in Germany, and there's an anecdote in there about a Brit Artillery spotter deciding that the steeple on this village church was in good enough shape to use for fire control, and went to round up his team. When they got back the Germans had hit the area with artillery fire and had shot both steeples off the church.

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Whoops, I made a serious error in my previous post. The 'suddenly missing Church Steeples' incident happened to an American FO in the town of St. Lo during the Hedgerows battles after the push off from the beaches. Guess I shouldn't be reading several books at once! redface.gif

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After witnessing

exceptional bravery from

his Celtic mercenaries,

Alexander the Great

called them to him and

asked if there was

anything they feared.

They told him nothing,

except that the sky might

fall on their heads

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TZEENCH:

Ohhh eve having multible levels of destruction.. Destroying the top floors of a 2nd story buildings. and leaving the ground floor alone.

Hummmm.....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This exists. I shelled the villiage in a certain scenario, and blew away the top level of one of the buildings, with the rest intact. It was on fire, no-one was left alive, but it was intact smile.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pak40:

Hey, Seanachai

Is that book that you're reading (about Geilenkirchen) about the 82 or 87 Division? I think I read thaat one.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

84th (the Railsplitters), and Brit 43rd (Wessex Division) made the attack. Apparently Eisenhower wanted the Brits to take the town/salient out, and lent them a newly arrived American Division when they said they couldn't do it with only one division (which is all they had available). Title of the book is: Assault on Germnay: the Battle for Geilenkirchen by Ken Ford. Interesting thing about the 84th is that apparently it had a normal genesis, but shortly before it shipped overseas it received a large influx of guys who'd been part of a specialized training program (the soldiers involved had IQs of 120 or better). The specialist training program was shut down by Congress for funding reasons, and these high IQ types were given rifles and dumped into normal combat infantry divisions. Apparently all these college educated soldiers were somewhat miffed with the Army, as any of them would have qualified for OTS, but volunteered for this 'specialized' training program, and ended up carrying M1s through the mud of the German/Netherlands border fighting.

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