Banshee Posted September 21, 2000 Share Posted September 21, 2000 I came up with these threads : http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/Forum1/HTML/004864.html http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/Forum1/HTML/005066.html http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/Forum1/HTML/005452.html http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/Forum1/HTML/008334.html http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/Forum1/HTML/008346.html http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/Forum1/HTML/008767.html http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/Forum1/HTML/009768.html http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/Forum1/HTML/004163.html I realize they currently can't blow barbed wire, but why not? Clearly it is one of the engineers jobs to do under battle conditions. Just wondered everyones opinion on this and if BTS would weigh in. It's a small thing but I think it would add a some flavor. Thanks. ------------------ Veni, vidi, panzerschrecki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Hofbauer Posted September 22, 2000 Share Posted September 22, 2000 SEARCH!! uhm...wait a minute...erm...forget it, strike that. ------------------ "Say i think u all need to chill out." (GAZ_NZ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee Posted September 22, 2000 Author Share Posted September 22, 2000 Alright you! It's all fun and games till someone gets hurt! ------------------ Veni, vidi, panzerschrecki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Bates Posted September 22, 2000 Share Posted September 22, 2000 I never buy engineers, I can't see the point in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavScout Posted September 22, 2000 Share Posted September 22, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Banshee: I realize they currently can't blow barbed wire, but why not? Clearly it is one of the engineers jobs to do under battle conditions. Just wondered everyones opinion on this and if BTS would weigh in. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Good question. Cav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee Posted September 22, 2000 Author Share Posted September 22, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by M. Bates: I never buy engineers, I can't see the point in them.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Right now they serve a couple purposes, 1) clear mines 2) Close assaulting tanks, with the satchel charge they are pretty effective. Also you get a free Flamedude ™ with every purchase! Great for defense! Limited time only, offer not valid in California. ------------------ Veni, vidi, panzerschrecki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted September 22, 2000 Share Posted September 22, 2000 Damn you and your non valid california sticker, californians are people too ------------------ The names Ash, Housewares [This message has been edited by Ash (edited 09-21-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee Posted September 22, 2000 Author Share Posted September 22, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ash: Damn you and your non valid california sticker, californians are people too <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I'm a californian, and no we are not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Hofbauer Posted September 22, 2000 Share Posted September 22, 2000 I see M.Bates' point here. I myself never use engineers either, and I bet most people don't. I see your point about their additional purposes, but the (only potential because you will practically never need it) mine clearing and the satchel charges IMO don't justify the increased price of these units. otherwise, I agree they should be able to clear barby wire, but again I think the practical value is lim-0 oh, and btw, the flamethrower applies to california as well, it's just that californians have to add VAT. and besides, it is not free, albeit comes cheaper, but only with some nationalities. ------------------ "Say i think u all need to chill out." (GAZ_NZ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee Posted September 22, 2000 Author Share Posted September 22, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by M Hofbauer: I see M.Bates' point here. I myself never use engineers either, and I bet most people don't. I see your point about their additional purposes, but the (only potential because you will practically never need it) mine clearing and the satchel charges IMO don't justify the increased price of these units. otherwise, I agree they should be able to clear barby wire, but again I think the practical value is lim-0 oh, and btw, the flamethrower applies to california as well, it's just that californians have to add VAT. and besides, it is not free, albeit comes cheaper, but only with some nationalities. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I play QB's with the computer picking forces and it seems to buy engineers all the time so I've used them some. Engineers are very important battlefield (IRL)units but considering their is no AT trenches to cross and they can only remove 1 of the 3 obstacles given in CM I agree the usefulness is limited/non-existant and I just treat them as an infantry platoon(-1 squad). Banshee p.s. There was a thread about why engineers couldn't remove roadblocks and of the few roadblocks I have seen in footage I would agree that it would take quite some time to do (i.e. outside the time scale of CM). ------------------ Veni, vidi, panzerschrecki [This message has been edited by Banshee (edited 09-21-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullethead Posted September 22, 2000 Share Posted September 22, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>considering their is no AT trenches to cross and they can only remove 1 of the 3 obstacles given in CM I agree the usefulness is limited/non-existant and I just treat them as an infantry platoon(-1 squad)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I agree. Roadblocks, yeah, that's a bit much most of the time. But I think wire should be on their "to-do" list. I was surprised to discover, upon getting CM, that engineers can't breach wire but can breach minefields. If they can do 1, you'd think they could do the other. In fact, IIRC (too lazy to read all those old threads Banshee posted) Steve said they WOULD in fact be able to breach wire, using their sackbombs as abstracted bangalors. ------------------ -Bullethead Visit the brand new Raider Operations message board at www.delphi.com/raiderops Main site www.historicalgames.bizland.com/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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