Guest Robert/1 Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 Will ships in Cm or will the just not be used. I was just asking because of the fact that the naval ships usaly shelled the areas near the beaches to panic the Germans befor a landing. [This message has been edited by Robert/1 (edited 05-23-2000).] [This message has been edited by Robert/1 (edited 05-23-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argie Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 The ships are represented as artillery with a FO which targets the area. There are guns up to 14" represented, IIRC. Ariel [This message has been edited by argie (edited 05-23-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Shaw Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 14 Inchers And I thought the arty in VOT was bad. Joe ------------------ "The Irish are a fine, mad race ... all their wars are happy ... and all their songs are sad." I can say that, I'm of Irish descent:) And if anyone knows the origin of that quote I'd be eternally in your debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Robert/1 Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 Thanks for clearing that up. Robert/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 Actually they go up to 16 inch naval guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armorbuff Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 Yes but in CM2 they will have to make it go up to 18" guns for the Japanese BB's Yamato, Musashi, and Kevato but not the Shinano as it was converted to a carrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS_PanzerLeader Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 err didnt know they had japanese battleships in Russia ------------------ SS_PanzerLeader.......out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ol' Blood & Guts Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 Robert/1, For a British Columbian, you shore dont no how 2 spel... ------------------ "When in doubt...shell." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike D Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 Those big guns on the BB's are going to do more than just shell Germans near the beaches. Those suckers have a range of over 20 miles and were definitedly used at least 2-3 weeks after D-day if I'm remembering correctly. Mikester out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Beman Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 OB&G, if you were joking, it was not funny. If you were not joking, you should apologize. DjB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flix Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 I'm very curious to see how CM will handle the awesome power of naval gunfire. The maps on the scenarios so far are kinda of small to support such huge firepower. Just the concussion alone would scramble your guts and pull all of the oxygen out of your lungs. Flix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rune Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 Well, on a single hit, I lost 2 full squads and badly mauled a HQ. Don't bunch troops if you suspect Naval 14" FOs. Ouch Rune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Germanboy Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 According to Reynolds "Steel Inferno", the German commanders were desparate to get their troops out of the range of Allied gun-fire, because even when they managed to break through the MLR of the Allies, those break-throughs would be stopped by ships' and other arty. Unfortunately for them, a certain Mr. Hilter (now living in a B&B in the south of England) did not allow that. armorbuff, CM2 is planned to be the Eastern Front. There are currently no plans for a Pacific version of CM, IIRC. This has been debated lots, maybe do a search if you are interested. ------------------ Andreas It is amazing what you can learn from a good book... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pham Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 Can't they truck in Japanese ships? I mean, how heavy can they be really, and it's not like Asia's big or anything. Ohhh, or maybe they could dig a canal. That might be quicker. Or they could fly them in. If the Axis can unsuccesfully supply the sixth army outside Stalingrad by air, they can sure as hell unsuccessfully reposition Japanese naval craft. At any rate, I want to know if CM2 will model really heavy artillery. You punks want 16" guns, or your fancy lad 18" guns. I want Fat Man and/or Little Boy. Sure, it may throw the tactical balance off on the 1km x 1km maps, but I think it'll all work out fine in the end. Think of the time savings on multiplayer games. In closing, we could all do well following OBG's lead and not only nitpick at the spelling and grammer of others, but hound them from thread to thread for no good reason at all. *This has been a utterly pointless follow-up post to a valid original question. Except for the part about OBG and spelling issues. I meant that, but in a sarcastic/ironic kind of way. So I guess I didn't really *mean* it if you want to be really technical about it.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armorbuff Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 Thats right CM2 will be the Eastern Front. So forget it then No Jap battleships. Also only 2 of these "super bb's" were built and saw action. Not 3. [This message has been edited by armorbuff (edited 05-24-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Babra Posted May 24, 2000 Share Posted May 24, 2000 Sorry, Joe: The wild men of Wales Are the men that God made mad, For all their wars are happy -- And all their songs are sad. (from The Ballad of the White Horse -- Chesterton) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Shaw Posted May 25, 2000 Share Posted May 25, 2000 Thanks Babra, I appreciate the information. I heard that quote years ago on a TV show and it was atttibuted to the Irish. I always liked it but didn't know where it came from. It's better to be wrong and corrected than just wrong BTW, my wife is of Welsh descent ... I think that explains a lot Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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