Måkjager Posted August 20, 2000 Share Posted August 20, 2000 While playing a 300pt QB of a lone panther against a combined arm force of British troops i noticed that when the Panther was engageing the Bren gun carries it continued to use round after round of AP shot. As far as i am aware the Pz troops were under instruction to use AP against tanks and SPGs, all other targets to be destroyed using HE or mg fire. Any ideas lads ???? ps i just love those lil close up & dirty QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Aitken Posted August 20, 2000 Share Posted August 20, 2000 I was interested to see that a Churchill (VIII I think) armed only with HE didn't have any qualms about blasting away at a Marder II - and the Marder didn't have any intention of sticking around. I also noticed that German tanks and guns would try to kill Bren carriers with AP (and usually succeeded). If it's worth throwing HE at a Marder, it should be deadly to a UC, but I'm not sure whether AP or HE is better for that purpose. Anyway, I don't have any useful information for you, so I'll shut up. =) David ------------------ There's a splinter in your eye, and it reads REACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PzKpfw 1 Posted August 20, 2000 Share Posted August 20, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Måkjager: While playing a 300pt QB of a lone panther against a combined arm force of British troops i noticed that when the Panther was engageing the Bren gun carries it continued to use round after round of AP shot. As far as i am aware the Pz troops were under instruction to use AP against tanks and SPGs, all other targets to be destroyed using HE or mg fire. Any ideas lads ???? ps i just love those lil close up & dirty QBs <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Dunno from what I have read the coax & bow MG worked fine vs Bren carriers, maybe the range was to far for the MG to affect the Bren. Regards, John Waters ---------- "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PzKpfw 1 Posted August 20, 2000 Share Posted August 20, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by David Aitken: I was interested to see that a Churchill (VIII I think) armed only with HE didn't have any qualms about blasting away at a Marder II - and the Marder didn't have any intention of sticking around. David <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Heh, I've lost quite a few Marders to CH VII's, Marder bounces 1 or 2 rounds off front of VII, goes to boogie and gets blasted . Regards, John Waters --------- "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Måkjager Posted August 20, 2000 Author Share Posted August 20, 2000 Thxs for your thoughts David and Pzkpfw...i just thought it was a wates of precious ammo that could be used on a lurking M4...as for the range it was less that 200m away.....that AI sure does put one in the eye for ye Måkjager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Babra Posted August 20, 2000 Share Posted August 20, 2000 HE would be my load of choice against a carrier. Maybe some lighter armoured units such as halftracks and carriers should be classed as "unarmoured" strictly for the purposes of determining what type of ammo to throw at them. Not Kangaroos or Badgers though -- they use a tank hull. ------------------ Sounds like 100% weapons-grade bolonium to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PzKpfw 1 Posted August 20, 2000 Share Posted August 20, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Formerly Babra: HE would be my load of choice against a carrier. Maybe some lighter armoured units such as halftracks and carriers should be classed as "unarmoured" strictly for the purposes of determining what type of ammo to throw at them. Not Kangaroos or Badgers though -- they use a tank hull. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> My choice vs soft targets would be HL rounds for tanks that had them Ie, Tiger, Tiger II and so on but their is no Gr.39HL loadout in CM for these tanks, just SprGr. Regards, John Waters ------------ "Make way evil, I'm armed to the teeth and packing a hamster!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mensch Posted August 20, 2000 Share Posted August 20, 2000 buha! who needs HE, AP or MG's to take out those silly Marders... damn I have had so many occasions of a bigger tank popping up nearby and the crew (from the Marder) up and jumps tank!!! or one, (thanks Scan) of my Marder crew looking at a fire fight between a schutzen squad and his (Scans) amoured car... the damn crew just ran RAN!! I looked at the film tons a times no casuaties no hits on it (it had no damn LOS to the Car) and they just decided .. "screw this lot were out of here!" heh.. not so funny.. (you can stop laughing now Scan) [This message has been edited by mensch (edited 08-20-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Babra Posted August 20, 2000 Share Posted August 20, 2000 Sorry, Mensch. Can't stop laughing... really I can't... ------------------ Sounds like 100% weapons-grade bolonium to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mensch Posted August 20, 2000 Share Posted August 20, 2000 hey Formerly Babra, I got more of silly stories from my Marder crews... I think they scraped the bottom of the outhouse finding these crews... one I love, is that one of my Marders was racing up the middle and it saw a Stuart and decided again... "well lads lets show those Amis whos better...lets jump tank befere they shoot then that'll teach'em!, ha?" (you can stop laughing Jadayne) [This message has been edited by mensch (edited 08-20-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apex Posted August 20, 2000 Share Posted August 20, 2000 Had a PBEM recently where a pretty drunk Panzer IV(70) crew shot away quite a significant portion of its AP rounds at a Humber scout car - hadn't they got themselves shortly afterwards because they didn't shoot any better when facing an Achilles, they'd have run out completely in short order apex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Petersson Posted August 22, 2000 Share Posted August 22, 2000 For this particular scenario it seems logic to use the AP against the carriers. No other armour around, and the precious HE would be better used against the infantry. I'm much more concerned when they run out of HE and start using AP against infantry squads, as is common in the Beta demo... Cheers Olle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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