borg Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Hi all. Is there / are there - events in any of the CM series whereby you can locate an enemy unit yet he doesn't see you until you engage that is... I believe the element of 'surprise' is an essential part of tactical war ?ive seen this at least once / when you 'ambush' an enemy bunker from behind... They cannot see you or at least - cannot fire on you unless they come out. Thanks guysz 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I think there are many such situations in CM - just like real life. First the obvious - technological disparity: in CMBS the electronics are so superior for the US forces that frequently they see much further and more frequently in worse visibility conditions than their opponents. You also see that vehicle design and optics are a factor - German kit in WW2 is often going to have better vision blocks, better distribution of vision devices on vehicles, enabling them to see and shoot first. Second, the human factor - sometimes one unit is simply more situationally aware than another and sees it first. Sight is not simultaneous the moment LOS is achieved. I've had many instances where I have fired on an enemy that had no idea I was there, and the same has happened to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borg Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 Ok ! If that is the case - then - hands down to BFC. That's excellent. I always had this question... And never really asked or thought about it well enough. Thanks Bud_B 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Hi all. Is there / are there - events in any of the CM series whereby you can locate an enemy unit yet he doesn't see you until you engage that is...Yes. This is trivial to arrange on most maps. If it's not the case for you, then you need to think about how you're using/moving through terrain and concealment.Bocage is perhaps the archetypical terrain in which to arrange for your troops to be able to see enemy without them having seen you, but it's also entirely possible in urban terrain, and forest.LOS is generally reciprocal: if you can see their eyes, they have a chance of being able to see yours. Using concealment properly will reduce the enemy's chance of getting a spot on your troops. Bunkers, of course, don't have any eyes in their back, so sneaking up from the rear is a good way of staying out of sight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borg Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 10x womble, much appreciated ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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