lordhedgwich Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Why is this not in CM games? Its not a big deal im just curious i know it was somewhat rare, but there were more of these made than both variants of the FG-42. Is it possible to see it in the future maybe? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFF Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Because it saw extremely little use. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddball_E8 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Because it saw extremely little use. This is what Wikipedia had to say about it (yes, yes, I know "don't trust wikipedia" bla bla bla): "The MP 41 was not introduced as a service weapon with the German Army, but saw limited use with some SS and police units. They were also exported to Germany's ally, Romania. The MP 41's production run was brief, as Erma filed a successful patent infringement lawsuit against Schmeisser's employer, Haenel." Which is interesting since I didn't know that they did patent infringement lawsuits during the war :/ I just wish they'd implement the MP 41® and MP717® as there are plenty of evidence that it was used by german troops on the front lines even in the west. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASL Veteran Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 For the record, the MP41 is not the Erma. The Erma was developed from the Vollmer machine pistol designed during the 1920s. The mention in Wiki about the legal action is accurate for the MP 41 however, but once again, the MP 41 is not the MP Erma. The MP Erma had a magazine that fed from the side (Sten style) although it did have a wooden stock with a vertical foregrip. The MP 41 had a magazine that fed from the bottom ala the MP 40, although it had a wooden stock as well. There are at least 11 German made Maschinenpistole type weapons used by the German army during WW2 MP18/1 MP 28/11 MP 34/1 MP 35/1 MP Erma MP 38 MP 38/40 MP 40 MP 40/11 MP 41 MP 3008 edited to add that I'm not sure where I read Erma in the post above. I must have been hallucinating or something. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddball_E8 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 For the record, the MP41 is not the Erma. The Erma was developed from the Vollmer machine pistol designed during the 1920s. The mention in Wiki about the legal action is accurate for the MP 41 however, but once again, the MP 41 is not the MP Erma. The MP Erma had a magazine that fed from the side (Sten style) although it did have a wooden stock with a vertical foregrip. The MP 41 had a magazine that fed from the bottom ala the MP 40, although it had a wooden stock as well. There are at least 11 German made Maschinenpistole type weapons used by the German army during WW2 MP18/1 MP 28/11 MP 34/1 MP 35/1 MP Erma MP 38 MP 38/40 MP 40 MP 40/11 MP 41 MP 3008 edited to add that I'm not sure where I read Erma in the post above. I must have been hallucinating or something. You read it here: "The MP 41's production run was brief, as Erma filed a successful patent infringement lawsuit against Schmeisser's employer, Haenel." And this would be the Erma referred to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erma_Werke Now, please calm down your inner grognard and enjoy a glass of whiskey or something else because that tirade was pretty unnecessary 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordhedgwich Posted November 8, 2014 Author Share Posted November 8, 2014 This is what Wikipedia had to say about it (yes, yes, I know "don't trust wikipedia" bla bla bla): "The MP 41 was not introduced as a service weapon with the German Army, but saw limited use with some SS and police units. They were also exported to Germany's ally, Romania. The MP 41's production run was brief, as Erma filed a successful patent infringement lawsuit against Schmeisser's employer, Haenel." Which is interesting since I didn't know that they did patent infringement lawsuits during the war :/ I just wish they'd implement the MP 41® and MP717® as there are plenty of evidence that it was used by german troops on the front lines even in the west. I would still rather just see a mp41 lol Im sure they were used. I have read there only like 7,000 FG-42s made between both variants and there were around 26,000 mp41s made and if they were used by the SS shouldnt the SS in CMBN have some? Or did the SS stop using them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts4EVER Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 The SS used them, but not in Combat units. The only picture of one in German use that I know of is from the destruction of the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddball_E8 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 They were basically relegated to the same type of units that used the MP18/28. So yeah, they might have seen combat use here and there but very rarely and mostly against partisans or even civilians. I guess that at the end of the war though, in situations like the battle of berlin, they might very well have been used. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts4EVER Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 By the end of the war the Germans started massively using the Beretta smg. Also, this was taken in 1945, Pomerania. As you can see, this whole unit is equipped with the EMP35. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordhedgwich Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 its hard to notice with all them panzerschrecks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 its hard to notice with all them panzerschrecks! Yeah, there are at least four visible, and that's for what appears to be a slightly over strength squad (although I would expect them to be organized into four neat AT teams). Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts4EVER Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 It's probably a dedicated anti tank unit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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