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You gotta love these brutal russian protests that make putin scared for his life: "Why can't you just murder all Ukrainians with supersonic weapons, why do I have to do it now?!"

You all remember how it was possible that a russian general was captured?

In that case we need not worry - those protesters that get grabbed right now - will have guns really soon. That will change things.

Maybe russians should get some friends too instead of killing them? Or at least watch a how-to guide on YT?

You are right - 3 guys will beat up 100. 30:1 advantage is not enough - I guess more protesters are needed. Navalny needs to announce partial mobilization immediately.

If I point out that 100 "protesters" idly watch a single guy being grabbed by three out of few surviving members of OMOH - and it's the reason why so called russian "opposition" deserves zero sympathy - will it be racist or very racist?

Can't be Rosgvardiya, they don't have many hands left themselves.

Ah I finally get it now. It has nothing to do with "calls to kill" since there are none. I'm bad and evil because instead of pretending russians don't rape little children and cut off body parts of living human beings - I keep saying they should be held responsible, all of them must feel at least some consequences - because they support it. Whereas what I should really do is shut up and think about how after the war ends I will be holding hands with rapists and murderers and singing kumbaya and all will be well in the world. Everybody will be friends again and everybody will watch cute cat videos instead of mass exhumations. Maybe we will even drink tea with russians on top of a Ukrainianmass grave and laugh and make funny jokes

Where do I explicitly call for that? Since I do it repeatedly - you will have no problem finding at least one comment.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/thesaurus/hold-someone-responsible https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hold someone responsible

Never once in this thread I ever posted any call to kill anyone like that ever. I have no idea why "all russians should be held responsible for actions of their army they themselves support" is treated as "hate speech" but when somebody posts "I wish putin and all russian army died for what they do" - it's somehow not hate speech. Just like I have no idea why I'm repeatedly being called racist whenever I'm not happy with what russians do - when russians themselves are not a race. It's not even an ethnicity. Buryats are an ethnicity. Mongols are a race. Maybe when your compatriots (or, sometimes unfortunately) friends turn out to be dead and lacking body parts - it's just problematic to do only Love Speech and pretending it's putin personally running around frontlines and raping women - which is a very comfortable world view, I agree - but how exactly hating invaders (of all kinds) makes me "racist" - I have zero idea.

Israel is solving the root cause by treating both soldiers and people back home, who dress and feed them equally as enemies. Who are not welcome in Israel. If some peaceful Israeli citizen dies to some enemy soldier or terrorist - Israel makes sure to retaliate in a way that makes it very clear that it's not acceptable and they can get you anywhere in the world. Right now Israel is actively fighting only in one country - Syria - that fully deserves it by supporting "Palestine", similarly to how Russia does it with their own artificial "people's republics". How did you even get to a point of "killing all arabs" I have no idea. If you mean "killing all arabs who come to Israel riding tanks" - then sure. They should do it. They have an absolute right to do it.

My man, ANYONE, who came to Israeli land to kill and live in place of the killed, should disappear from that land by riding back home in fridges. And Israel made sure they did. And I can complete relate.

I mean they totally should. That will save a lot of time and effort for their enlistment officers. Just come to a "protest" and grab any of those "protesters" standing on their knees and begging putin not to enlist them - and enlist them. So that they can tell AFU in person how hard they have fought the system for the past 8.5+ years.

Because any 'western civilization', that is remote enough from other civilizations, does that to your view. Through a twisted lens of comfort people tend to find explanations for everything that will go in line with their worldview. Isn't pure evil is just a fantasy stuff present in movies and it's always two sides who are at fault (which allows to not pick a side and stay "above it")? Here in Europe we aren't raping and brutally torturing people for fun - so why anyone else would? And if somebody is enraged at somebody else - he's the bad guy. After all russians do warcrimes mostly in silence, yeah sometimes they make a video but you can just hit the skip button. It's why it's so hard to explain Russia to French or Spanish, but you don't need to say a word to Polish or Czech, not to mention Lithuanian or Latvian.

As Steve has calculated - thus far approx. 500.000 russian soldiers have been to Ukraine. And they were much better equipped, much better trained and with a much higher morale than these guys will ever have. Having large numbers of rapists is never an issue for Russia. But there's a reason those 500.000 run out so fast that he needs another 300.000.

2014 happened because russian empire is an empire and can't exist without expansion. So on 20.02.14 the war began, in Crimea and incl. contributing troops to kill people at Maidan. Trying to claim that "russian speaking" people were some kind of a lower caste in a country where Ukrainian music, movies and literature were effectively banned until 2014-2015 (and were unbanned and finally getting protection as a result of the invasion as a law only in 2019) - is exactly what shows the lack of knowledge about the topic. So, naturally, nobody ever thought there's something wrong with "russian speaking" Ukrainians, nor did it change, apart from many of those "russian speaking" Ukrainians stopping speaking russian after their homes get smashed by 'russian made' bombs. As for russians. Screw those guys - they are not getting free ride into Europe by coming to live in homes of people they (or their army) killed. Deportation it is and nothing else. I hope this is "not ad hominem" enough?

That's some amazing lack of knowledge about the topic at hand.

the google search "how to leave russia" certainly started making waves exactly at the time of supposed streaming of a prerecorded putin's speech

Yes russians are the root of the problem. Not just putin, not just their army, all of russians. They all caused this, collectively. All must be held responsible - which is where things are going, slowly but surely at least with their neighbors. And not just Baltic countries, but even Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan. Countries sending them all back home is a great damn start - look how enraged they get and how they go from "let's all be friends" pretense to suddenly crying e.g. "Estonia is **** and must be gangraped by our glorious army". It's delightful to watch and it's the least they deserve. And don't give me this "final solution" BS. Russians came here claiming to "finally solve the Ukrainian problem". In 7 months of outrageous warcrimes nobody in Russia was ever against any of it, even if they pretended there was none of it for 8 years prior. So let them reap what they sow.

Why not? Israel is a good example of exactly that - a nation, which defends itself against extremely barbaric neighbors, that went through centuries of occupation and genocides - is now deemed bad by some because it gets what the root of a problem is. Even Palestine fits well here - because it is just another faux "LPR/DPR" with a flag eerily reminiscent of a certain Israeli extremely genocidal neighbor, which directly supports Palestine, while actively denying it (also too busy with its country deservedly disintegrating - something lacking in Russia thus far, unfortunately). And Israel retaliates against this "people's republic" a lot calmer and slower than what Ukraine is forced to do. When you are threatened with a very very violent extermination by whole generations of barbaric enemies - it's very hard to roleplay that it's just a token Hollywood movie with evil dictators and good people suffering under them. By all means I'd more than happily return to the unicorn-infested world of being civilized - the moment russians are not a threat, preferably due to violently cutting off each other's penises in wars of succession.

So what you are saying is that they have a very hard filtering for their soldiers to make sure only rapists, looters and murderers get into the army and the other, "good" russians stay away? Or, you know, maybe it's the whole culture, the whole nation that gives birth to these - starting with their parents, continuing with their schools and ending (hopefully in the very first combat) with their army instructor? This war isn't even the first war this "not-USSR" wages. Since 1991 it's what, 10th? And every time russian soldiers do exactly the same things - rape, loot, murder. So we are talking THREE generations here who do exactly the same thing. And literally every single generation before that who did exactly this in USSR and in whatever their empire was called before that. So either only absolutely barbaric criminals are exclusively and perfectly filtered into the army for centuries or... it's the NORM in Russia. Whatever makes you feel warmer I guess.

This is what I mean when I said for so long that while putin is, without a doubt, 'evil' and completely effed up - he is still a "High Slave", like any dictator really is. His people demanded "to start the war for reals" for at least a month now and now he either will look weak (means death) or he does what population demands to stay alive. What will it change though? They will repeat "Russia is here forever" and this time, this time AFU will listen and be like "ok then, let's go home boys"?

Meh. People who live in western countries do not understand how totalitarian/slave cultures tick and so they try to find logical explanations like "they are forced to listen to dictator's propaganda" despite every fact pointing to the perfectly free will. Even when they act like complete asshats abroad, where there's no commissar to hold a gun to their heads - an explanation must be found. Or it won't compute. A thought of people freely choosing the so called High Slave that will (be forced to) make all the choices for them is impossible to comprehend. No way, it can't be. Humans are inherently good, only dictators are evil. And then Afghanistan happens where people instantly bring back slavery and welcome shariah law with open arms before the last American plane even gets to leave.

"Culture changes over time" Why is nobody trying to tell that to Israelis about their Arab neighbors? I also don't see anyone crying "racism" when somebody criticizes Israeli Arab neighbors putting burqas on women and pulling heads off men? Pretty sure Israel should just wait a few more centuries and everything will be OK. Or maybe cutting off heads is unacceptable, but cutting off penises, hands, legs off of still alive human being who was deemed to be unworthy because he isn't a part of a superior russian race - is perfectly valid.