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    CM: BfN steam group

    in Combat Mission Battle for Normandy

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    It is 2011 and I couldn't care less about having a physical copy in some silly steel box, let alone having a 200 page printed manual. There are more customers out there that you alienate from by having an old fashioned stance when it comes to PC gaming. All I ask is that you might consider entertaining a broader view of your customer base.

    Although I fully live in 2011 and enjoy being a "steam prisoner" I am also of those who like those "bible"size paper manuals on good games.

    I have to agree though that steam could eventually help in broadening the player base for the CM series thanks to all its networking and scale features. Cant back it up obviously and just a gut feeling so a bit worthless. But the fact Moon and co. are looking at Steam data and facts so closely probably hints in the same direction.

    Having said that if I was BFC I would only go to Steam if Steam accepted my Terms & Conditions, and not the other way round. And that is not going to happen anytime soon, or is it?

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    Logitech G700 13 button wireless gaming mouse

    in Combat Mission Battle for Normandy

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    Edit: As much as I like ArmA2 I wouldn't go so far as to call it a simulation. In some ways it's realistic, in others it doesn't stand much above the Call of Duty series unfortuneately. An FPS based on CM, now that I wanna see :)

    Probably worth to move this particular aspecty of the discusison to the off topic forum, but comparing Arma II to CoD is a tad unfair. Arma II is a different game concept altogether. CoD is just an arcade shooter in comparison. Scratch that, CoD is just an arcade shooter, period.

    Anyway, this may boil down to personal tastes, and I will give you that Arma II is not perfect. I just dare you name an infantry FP (not just a shooter) game that may rival or surpass Arma in the simulation aspect!

    PS: regarding having a CM FP, I presume you know there are quite decent WWII mods for Arma II out there!

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    Logitech G700 13 button wireless gaming mouse

    in Combat Mission Battle for Normandy

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    I've dropped the mainstream FPS games because it is all about reflexes which I don't have at 47 years old. I might get back in for the upcoming Red Orchestra game but I'm essentially done with FPS.

    You then need to try Arma II. Better yet, need to try Arma II Operation Arrowhead.

    Best FPS (if you can call it that) I ve ever played. More of a simulator than a FPS really. Incredibly immersive and realistic. According to critics simulation is such that you need to behave as close as you probably would in a real situation, i.e. no trigger happy jumping all over the place calling you noob hormone filled teenages around etc. No. This game actually requires some thinking and mouse reflexes requirements are only secondary. Play Rambo and you re as good as dead.

    http://www.arma2.com/game-features/arma-2-operation-arrowhead-features_en.html

    http://www.armaholic.com/

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    CM:BN Pre-odered

    in Combat Mission Battle for Normandy

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    And I'm thankful it's cleared up for me too. I must not have got the memo ;)

    Actually, we had made this decision a long time ago and I forgot all about it. With so many people opting for Download Only our ability to get decent pricing on the ever increasing costs of manuals has diminished over the years.

    When I step back and look at how much the publishing side of things has changed in just 10 short years I still can't believe it.

    Steve

    What?!

    Steve proven wrong and lacking memo?

    What else about all he has said thus far about CM:BN can also be wrong or affected by lack of memo then? :D

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    Why infantry combat in CMx2 is so different

    in Combat Mission Battle for Normandy

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    Very interesting discussion no doubt...

    I would tend to agree whith those that suggest casualty numbers realism or lack thereof in games is also heavily influenced by the tactics used by each player, not just the game engine and model.

    I would like to add to teh discussion a "maybe" relevant extrapolation to a game I just happened to get involved with, and that some of you may know. It is Arma (well Arma 2 in this case), an allegedly very realistic FPS that is also allegedely portrays and simulates very faithfully infantry engagements (it also covers vehicles and aircarft but from what I have seen it excels at infantry above all else).

    If some of you know this game you could probably confirm that players behaviour here is nothing compared with your usual FPS rambo style. In Arma, one typically spend 30 minutes quitely eating grass and crawling or even static to then just die of a single shot in less than 1 second firefight. It goes without sayingt that the survival instincts and behaviour JasonC and others suggest as more realistic, and limiting real casualties, is in theory applied to the letter here. Hear a hand grenade nearby? Go prone and stay there for the next 10 minutes.

    Nevertheless, in your usual average difficulty mission here, most of the time out of the 2 or 3 squads in one side, losses amount up 80%+, and more often than not we are all wiped out (either human against AI or human vs human). Granted, most of my fellow friend players are also new to the game and inexperience may be a reason for this but still, we die because try to go on and achieve the objective no matter what when in reality if our squad was real they would have probably withdrawn or flee. This is a game and if we die, we can still come back and play another mission.

    Point is the game seems to be one of the most realistic around forcing players to really apply survival instincts as portrayed by JasonC etc. Nevertheless we die like flies becuase we know is a game and we do not mind maybe trying going that extra yard that may gets us closer to our target, but that ends up killing us. Tunguska spotted 400m away? Hmm... let me try crawling so to place that satchel charge and blew it up! fun!... ok, wait, what?

    It is not just the game engine or model, it's (in a significant part) us. Maybe it has been discussed already but one ways of maybe forcing players to behave more realistically would be to make geographical flags or positions held Victory Points subject to a certain cap of own units losses. It could be maybe done in a stage manner, i.e. if losses are betwen 10-30% you only get 80% of flags VP, if you get more than 30% then you get only 50% of flags VP etc, or something along those lines. At least it would give a different priority to players, a bit more akin with self preservation.

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    CM:BN Beta AAR/DAR Bois de Baugin US side

    in Combat Mission Battle for Normandy

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    Elvis, quick one regarding AI for units. Maybe it s been discussed already but not sure:

    Infantry is now modelled individually, correct?. When taking cover on one side of a wall or a building, is there any issues with some units in a given squad remaining on the wrong side of the wall or staying outside the house, or is the AI smart enough to ensure all units of the squad behave similarly when the move order is given? When I saw one of your pics with all units on one side of the wall I wondered!

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    So I have to ask.....

    in Combat Mission Battle for Normandy

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    TC: Gunner right, 400 yds. Panther in the trees.

    Gunner: Can't make it out, Sarge.

    TC: Fire for Chrissake, he's onto us!

    Gunner: Still can't make it out, Sarge.

    TC: He's right there! Can't you...

    Gunner: Oh wait, I can see it now, barely. I can make out the commander out the turret... he seems to be somewhat agitated... like you sarge. Their main is not aiming at us yet though.

    TC: Chrissakes Gunner, fire this thing already!

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    Just like the good old days!

    in Combat Mission Battle for Normandy

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    Hamachi merely provides a simple way of generating TCP/IP addresses, it doesn't have a facility for File sharing once that network is created.

    So basically you use Hamachi to create your own LAN (or really a VLAN, but we wont go there) and then use as you mentioned the local file sharing option.

    The steps vary depending on whether you have XP, Vista (soory if that's you) or Windows 7 but generically speaking.

    1. You create a network on Hamachi. You start it, get an IP address allocated (say 1.2.3.4 - but it wont be that) and "create" a network (say CMBN).

    2. You then 'phone, email, whatever your opponent and tell them to start Hamachi and join the network "CMBN".

    3. They will then get their IP address (say 1.2.3.5 - it will be on the same sub net as you since they are both on the CMBN "network" and therefore the first three blocks of numbers will be the same).

    4. You share wherever you want to save the files to (maybe C:\Program Files\Battlefront\CMBN\Game Files\Network) as say "CMBN Files" and tell you opponent.

    5. They map say Z drive to 1.2.3.4\CMBN Files

    6. You do your turn and save to "C:\Program Files\Battlefront\CMBN\Game Files\Network".

    7. You tell your opponent.

    8. They open the file from z:\.

    9. and the cycle goes from there.

    Once you have done this once things like where Z:\ maps to and them connecting to it can remain in place.

    Does that help?

    Indeed, thanks, we should call this method "Fast PBEM"! XD. Will have to try etc it once the game is out. If BF does not want for now to produce a full replay option for TCP/IP then maybe they could consider a simpler method using the game TCP/IP link created to actually share the file back and forth so each player can then load it? It would be a sort of pbem-TCP/IP hybrid so to speak... or not, and maybe this is just as cumbersome and time consuming to code as the real thing. Admittedly I know nothing about all this...

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    Just like the good old days!

    in Combat Mission Battle for Normandy

    Posted

    Why not indeed since that is what I was describing.

    To be pedantic though a “drop box” only lets you deposit files and not remove them so file sharing helps with the post game “clean up”. :)

    The only “advantage” of Hamachi is that it bypasses a lot of router issues so it makes it easier for people who don’t know how their router is configured or how their firewall is setup to in fact use a “drop box“ (however its configured, on their local machine, server space from a 3rd party, etc.).

    Hi Gibsonm, any recommendation for an efficient/fast "file sharing" system? Does Hamachi itself allow the creation of some kind of virtual shared drive? Or you thinking about one of the players creating a shared drive on his pc somehow linked to the hamachi network or somehting?

    Silly as this may sound, it could be a good idea to have some kind of sticky for a "how to" on some kind of recommended method or system for this. I am aware that there may be several ways of doing it, but one or two proposed how to´s maybe good to help out those TCP/IP WeGoers who want replay ability out there for now. The solution proposed would be pbem but it may be as close as it can get to a true replay WeGo TCP/IP experience?

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