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Steve's laptop has some Hilary emails and that is all I am gonna say on the subject

Apartheid wasn't exactly all that appealing either

the right also tends to have relationships to local police forces as well. very rare in the case of the left. Left to freeze by Canada police, Darrell Night exposed their deadly ‘starlight tours’ (yahoo.com) Exclusive: Antioch Police Chief Steven Ford speaks with KPIX about racist text scandal, troubled department (msn.com) New AP/ABC film probes white supremacy in law enforcement (yahoo.com) But I want to hear more about Steve's thoughts on the UA offensive looking to have begun at least preparatory phase. Are you teasing us Steve? that would be cruel. more data please.

I retired from Mckinsey and Co almost 2 years ago now. During my time there this was a major event. McKinsey Charged in South African Corruption Case - The New York Times (nytimes.com) This bit turned out to be utter BS. “We believe the charges filed against our South Africa office are meritless and we will defend against them,” a spokesman for McKinsey said in a statement. In the end they almost shuttered their SA operation and a few folks lost their jobs. I can hardly blame China for it.

not so sure of this. it's one thing to enslave a few thousand people to crank out our iphones. it is another to crank out military equipment. If what you say above is true I'm still waiting to see China's nuclear attack boats comparable to the Seawolf or Virginia class. And their aircraft carrier capability is laughable. If they want to outmatch our aircraft they better start cranking those out soon. Power projection by China is basically limited to mostly soft power. Militarily they are pretty limited to near coastal. They are a threat to our allies (Japan, Taiwan etc) and sea trade routes near their waters, but beyond that....

yeah we are way off topic, but no I don't think it is a matter of the "good things". I'd say first off there isn't one cause. It all depends on the specific situation. leaving out the indigenous population and the experience of minorities in the US for the moment, western economic power was largely founded on exploiting the resources and people of much of the globe, usually in pretty brutal conditions. British economic power was largely founded on the opium trade which the west forced on China at gunpoint. Then there was the Atlantic triangle trade one leg of which was the slave trade. One needn't go that far back either. Belgium is still grappling with the legacy of the Congo. Then you have the cold war where the west supported some of the most brutal autocratic regimes around. Mobutu of Zaire, the US waffling around the anti apartheid movement. Moving on you have the western involvement in the Middle east. Between the Suez invasion, support for the Shah and being stuck in basically an unsolvable crisis in Israel/Palestine partly due to our own antisemitism (by that I mean I am not so sure Israel would ever have been founded if the west had reacted faster and better to Nazism. for example the turning back of the Passenger liner St Louis in 1939 to Europe). All that being said, I think this perspective on an "ant western/Anti US viewpoint is a bit dated now. I've travelled quite a bit over the past 15 years in a lot of different places and I can't say I've really felt a major anti western vibe. The world has grown a lot different and there is a lot more competition, but other than the "we hate the great satan movement" largely led by conservative religious nuts stuck in the middle ages I don't think it exists in the same way it might have a couple decades ago. An interesting alternative view of where we are now Sudan proves that the only thing worse than Western meddling is Western absence (yahoo.com)

hopefully they fly one in with the dildo.

Case in point Zimbabwe. In my teens I actually helped with clothing drives for material aid. Pretty depressed when I saw the "liberation" leadership turned out to be f'n aholes.

sounds good. step 1 Russia removed from UN security council...

umm what is your point? You do realize this is consistent with your choices historically speaking? Celebrating a confederate victory in 1865? wtf?

I think you took a wrong turn ending up on this forum. Maybe your GPS is screwy or you have trouble reading a map. but you might want to look again to see where you really want to go - it ain't here.

last time Florida tried to secede as I recall it didn't go so well.

Actually the status of Crimea as recognized by Russia is it is Ukrainian territory. The recent claim from Russia is really no different than the claim to the 4 Ukrainian oblasts they currently claim as "Russian". so basically having a treaty with Russia is pointless.

hmm does @Gpig taste like Gbacon?

oh great, we've all been wondering about an escalation with Russia and meanwhile Ukraine goes and starts a fight with our galactic overlords!

no worries, I think we are just about to the point of removing any mention of it in our history books.

youngsters! Why when they rolled out the horseless carriage, I warned folks of the evil of climate change and vehicle exhaust but would anyone listen to me?! Noooo they just said my horse Rusty was a worse polluter than their car!

As God looks down, chuckles and mutters "sucker". emoticon -> on a more serious note, our neighbors 15 year old hung out with us a bit Sunday. Her take on things generally is so much more open and positive than I remember things being when I was 15 that perhaps you are right. I hope so cause we totally screwed these kids future environmentally.

I think history has shown you are destined for disappointment.

nope, loaded just fine and looks spectacular.

my personal experience makes me a lot less certain about them following any legal standards. Though those experiences are fairly distant now.

fixed that for you

geez you young people, it was "reefer madness" and good sound scientific medical advice! Now excuse me while I go buy a case of bud light to shoot at.

eeer what? The response was your assumption that somehow "good clean Christian" implies anything at all these days. Full List of Texas Pastors Charged With Abusing Children This Year (newsweek.com) have fun all I am saying is their church going activities should not be a + sign on the check list no more than whether they are a member of the local softball team. oh yeah well I'll have you know... umm wait, what were we talking about?

Yeah but I still don't think they will.