it's Les

Why does it bother me so much? Well, let's see, Hubert's time is finite. I would rather his time was spent on making the game a good wargame as much as possible. Soooo, anything that detracts from that goal ie dumb ideas, is a negative. It's not a positive if every nutty idea is crammed into the game such that it is bereft of enough "useful" design considerations which were lost due to many bad ones. This is why in today's world we have so many 3d real time ****ty worthless excuse wargames that have more of the pretty, and to little of the serious in their design. To much time wasted on the pretty means that to many wargames were never worth being bought in the first place.

WW2 lasted from between 1939 and 1945 if using the European context of the term WW2. Leaders made decisions daily in real time and often after lengthy negotiations with other world leaders after having travelled hundreds or thousands of miles to meet. Matters of grand strategy were often worked out with elaborate staffs working for long hours sometimes night and day. Not one single crucial meaningful decision was made during "5 minutes". Thus, a timer is not a useful option, it is a dumb option, as it neither reflects in any fashion what it was like to command the forces of any nation then at war, nor impose any useful means of determining if my decision making processes were on par with the then world leaders. Being able to allocate my resources, decide the options for my many units, judge whom to attack and where as well as when and in what order, is therefore something I want done right, with the same potential for careful thought and reasoned contemplation as might have been given by the actual historical participants. If you want a genuine option, one Hubert can code into the game, something that adds to the experience and actually reflects the actual conditions of a war, then you want the computer to simulate lieing and deception. Every now and then actually tell you a unit is at one strength level, when in fact the truth is it is at another. Lie about a unit's position, such that you thought it was there, but really it wasn't. Currently, I have not played a game that actually models espionage that I know of other than Civilization, where you can insert spies to mess with the oppponent forces. Wouldn't it be cool, if all your hard work was ruined by the computer using an all to human trait, and simply cheating But timer's nope, waste of time, and that is all it will ever be in my opinion.

After looking at this thread, I have noooooooo idea of the ACTUAL worth of a timer. A turn lasts as long as it lasts. Turn one of any game is critical, screw it up and the rest of the game might be a total waste of time. You won't find out immediastely of course. Then there are critical moments of the game. The first turn the Russians enter, not something you want to cram into an arbitrary time slot. Anyone asking me to play a timed game, might as well not pester me to play a second time after I say no the first time as well. Chess is a pointless analogy here. In chess your moves are incredibly finite, its a game of memorising well researched perfect sequences of moves with a very small number of pieces. That doesn't decribe any wargame worth mention. Even Axis and Allies requires thought. Thus, if you want my view (or even if not ), timer function for SC2, dumb way to delay Hubert getting the game finished.

Question, do you think of those often? And perhaps they have drugs that could cure you

Hehe laugh it up CT, but my tool smelled of woman long before your dad thought you up hehe. Top that youngun

Deed is done, and while it gives me a new account number (like I really care about that), and restarts sum total of posts posted (again I don't care squat), fact is this is nowe the only me (Moon did the favour and helped me retire the old me). Shame I was unaware of the simplicity of the ease to which I might have altered the name, but done is done. Still waiting, and plan to remain waiting, that is, unless, a thread that actually says something interesting shows up. Sorry guys, but what's being discussed as of late is total yawn material