and to shaka, russia if i am correct lost a total of 20 million people during the war. 20 million, lets say any other country lost 20 million, they would have surrenderd without thought but not the ruskies, they probably would have kept going until they lost staligrad. and to blashy the americans big pressure was diepp(mostly canadians). the reason and the only reason hitler lost his war in the east was because he was an over confident idiot, and thought his army was invincible. The americans had little to do with the war in europe until 1943. it was mostly the british and canadians saving the russians, first creating the illusion that d-day was coming in 1942 and then when the british gave help to the greeks. thats why the russians were saved not because of the americans.
[ July 09, 2004, 04:08 PM: Message edited by: afrika31 ]