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I have a close friend from Italy whose grandad actually fought in NA during WWII. She(!) told me that he had told her when she was younger that they (the italians) only waited for an opportunity to surrender to the english and get out of there. What can be thought of as interesting is that she is and he was from Milano, I guess the city for Mussolini rule, and still her grandad and his comrades wasn't up for a war. I know that it hardly counts as evidence but when I speak to her I get the impression that most italians didn't want a war at all, and many from southern Italy actually fought on the english side later in the war, something that CM could have modelled by the way, if its true that is. Ok, lots of speculation and actually not that much substance but I still feel that history hasn't been that unfair to Italy as a whole, besides the fact maybe that more cred should be given to them for not wanting a war at all. Finally Gambara still has a point in my view when saying that the winners wrote the history and that it is in no way objective. Cheers!

Thx guys great answers this far Sum up: Frontline motorized artillery is not common and neither are strange mixes of many different vehicles like tigers+panthers+pz III+... I might add to my first question that I am rather familiar with the TOEs in the editor for infantry at least, but since I am a WWII newbie (I am without shame trying to use your hard fought for knowledge ) I have no idea what infantry types that were the most common. Is for instance the pzgd the standard german formation? And how often did the different armies use turretless tanks in an offencive role, for instance the hetzer or marder or jagd types? Is there a lesser probability to see tanks in urban fighting? What I have read and seen suggest not, but I find it strange to use a lot of armor in city fighting given the many oportunities for ambushes by infantry. In a battalion sized fight, would it be strange to see 2 or more different tank types and what is the upper/lower number of these vehicles? I guess I am starting to get on your nerves, but I find it more informative to get a picture of the common oppinion among you guys than reading alot of books, which I have a hard time finding anyway . I have for instance read Beavors books but those kind of books don't really cover the forces involved in any great detail. Thx a lot and Cheers!

Ok, here is a question for all the so called grogs. What is, in your oppinion, a, give an example, historically correct force mix? Any theater, any year, any date. Please give a few examples, like north africa may 1942 italian side. How many tanks should there be per battalion infantry? What tanks and other AFVs and with what infantry? Airsupport? How common etc. Just drop a few words. I try to get the picture here you see. What is historically correct. Thanks! ps. Must also try the Graemlins :mad: :confused:

Hi! I would set Sweden as neutral and to be honest I would set Denmark and Norway as allies. To put Finland as axis is correct as long as they fight as German allies but besides then they ought to be neutral or allies too.