Chosun-few

I thought the real problem with the Sherman was the positioning of the fuel tanks, high on the side, combined with weak side armour. Any hit in that general are would either direcly ignite the fuel or chip chunks off the inside of the armour and ignite the fuel. All tanks burn but the impression is (i wasn't there my father was) that the Sherman would mostly be destroyed by fire rather than immoballised or blown up. Anyone know better??

This s a fascinating "russian MG" topic. Anyway, using the principle that the tank had be in action not just manafactured, by date which are the best tanks of WW2. my choice is PZIII, against polish armour, Matilda 2 Against the PZIII, T34 against PZIII and IV. T34 Tiger 1, T34 85, Panther, JS2. I am assuming the T34 didn't see action until Barborossa and that the British Centurian didn't see action. Would like to include the Sherman, but It caught fire to easily, crew comfort and ease of maintainance is one thing, frying the crews is another. Feel free to argue, I know you want to. In defence of british tank design, pre war, they were all built on the cheap and had to fit on the narrower gauge brit railway. Hence small, cramped and horrible. The Matilda is a masterpiece of design when this is considered. Since Quotes are in fashion hows about... He's not a bad chap said harry to Jack but he did for them both with his plan of attack.

Love the maths, but have a question.. What happens when 2 batteries fire fron different locations at APPROX the same time, mic 1 hears battery 1 then mic 2 hears battery 2 thinking it is battery 1 then mike 2 hears...etc.

Interesting theory, I certainly play faster half cut. Just out of interest, the quote is :- When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, And the women come out to cut up what remains, Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains An' go to your Gawd like a soldier. From the poem "the young british soldier" by Rudyard Kipling

To Abn_Ranger87 Not many Paddie fields in Merrie England I'm afraid... I was in the Queens Own Worcestershire hussars Squadron of the QOMY for a while. Got an exchange with the Michigan National Guard. Up at Camp Grayling by the Canadian border. I think the Chosin reservoir was one of the true slugfests. I wasn't there hence chosunfew rather than chosinfew

Many thanks for posts and emails...

anyone know how vehicles are priced??? Seems to me that the allies had so many shermans they were happy to abandon them behind the lines for minor breakdowns. I read of one incident where a small bridge collapsed and the fix was to drive a sherman into the gap and bulldoze a road over it. If so it would seem that shermans should be cheaper than they are. It is nothing to do with manufactoring cost or combat strength, simply availability...

The standard Vickers round was the .303 Mark VIII.Z (whatever that was)It could also fire a "heavy" round, this increased the muzzle velocity and range. It had 2 effects, first it made the vickers into an ersatz artillery piece and it could fire "over the hill" secondly it burnt the barrel out in fairly short order. I think this round was a MK16 but not sure. Also my manual states that the Browning had 3 sighting options =- 1, 0-2600 for.06 or M.2. ammo 2, 0-3400 for M.1. ammo 3, 0-2800 Not sure what this means but may explain the different muzzle velocity figures in this post.

I am in the states back end of this month. Am going to confed air force TX. and Aberdeen prooving grounds. Aberdeen is closed to civilians and I would like to know of any other museums/exhibitions to visit. starting from say Dallas and ending up in Florida, happy to go north some, even as far as Gettysburg. Happy to have replies to my email if you don't want to dump on this forum. Sorry for off-topic but I did check with a moderator before posting. Cheers, Jon.

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Chosun-few: [QB][/QB]<hr></blockquote>It's the weight of the shell, i think it is a hangover from cannonballs which were done by weight. howitzers were measured in inches. the 25 pdr being classed as a gun or gun/howitzer.

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Kingfish: I've heard two different answers. One is the weight of the actual round, and the other is what it cost to make each round. I think the first is the correct answer.<hr></blockquote>

Dunno about throwing distance but my old man reckoned that the blast from a mills bomb could toss shrapnel further than you could throw the grenade away from you. So you made damn sure you could take cover before you started

Many thanks, have only ever seen the gun listed as 17pdr, never by it's calibre... cheers. Don't attack the hill that's quiet and dark - that's where the british are!. Chinese army in Korean war (I am British)

In combat Mission, the Firefly is listed as mounting a 76mm gun. Anyone know if this is a typo?? the Firefly mounted the 17pdr anti-tank gun. Cheers. Vomit don't dribble - Erwin Rommel

Has anyone mentioned the infantry tank mark 1 matilda, so named because of it's comic duck like appearance. Calculated to inspire confidence in the crew!!