Lars

Well lads, I'm back. Wedding was beautiful. On the beach with two tall ships in the background. Should be great pictures. Nothing beats getting married barefoot in a bathing suit. Turns will be a little delayed. Seems the electrical company was doing a little work in the neighborhood. Modem no talky anymore.

Thanks for the thoughts guys. Here's a good one for you. You can bring a fishing rod on the plane. Can't bring the hooks. Sheesh, the way I fish, neither one is a deadly weapon….

Well lads, it's about time to send out your condolences to the condemned. Off to the Grenadines on Friday morning. Getting married on the S/V Mandalay. More Rum! Arrr! This be good grog...

To many massive implications. My poor brain hurts...

hm you mean "Larsed to look up anyway" I guess... </font>

She has pretty internal organs? </font>

I just had this wonderful mental picture of Seanachai, lost and quacking for his mother. And then the truck hit him. Thanks, Joe.

Ah, I see. And I agree. Problem is we're stuck with Corps as the smallest unit. Armies and Panzer Armies in an historical invasion? Fogetabodit. My favorite is the Italians launching an amphibious invasion of Greece. Hell, that never even happened. But it's a lot easier than fighting your way in over the mountains. Pretty much a one turn deal. And, let's face it, at the end of the day, the outcome is about the same. All those MPPs spent reflect, to my mind anyway, naval losses and whatnot for Norway, Italian incompetence for Greece. Btw, like your special rule solution, even though I hate special rules.

Well, don't get worked up JerseyJohn, didn't mean it as a personal attack. Was just pointing out how this whole thing would (and did) go off the rails. Question though. This seems like it's only a PBEM issue. If somebody dumped five armies on you on the first turn of a DOW, why didn't you have five armies to dump on his home territory while he was busy with his little favorite tactic the next time around? Gamey is as gamey does.

When we're talking amphibious shipping, what exactly are we talking about anyway? The troops for Norway, some were smuggled in on freighters, the rest were decked in on destroyers. Crete, Deippe and others, pretty much the same. Not really going to stand out as amphibious shipping as such. It's not like we're talking LST's with hordes of LCA's here. Only the US and Brits built those. So you'd have to tailor the tip-off to the size of the invasion. The only one you'd end up finding out about is the one you were expecting anyway. And which countries would entrench? Everybody in range? Some of them? Just the one?

Why invent more rules? Aren't landing losses abstracted enough to cover that eventuality for you? Just tweak the range if it turns out to be a problem. If it is even a problem. Last thing I want to see is SC2 turn into 3rd Reich, with umpteen million "special" rules that nobody can ever be arsed to look up anyway. Keep it simple, stupid. Besides, leaked plans would cover anything, not just an amphibious landing. I believe the Germans first stab at invading France was canceled due to a leak, for instance. Perhaps just a random chance of increase in the target nation's readiness would do, depending on Intel levels.

Don't see amphibious invasion on the same turn as a DOW as a gamey exploit at all. Would call it good generalship. To those willing to take the risks goes the rewards. Think the weather effects will take care of those winter invasion attempts.

Can't blackmail the shameless.

It wasn't much better at 2:30 AM on a belly full of beer, believe me.

If one is going to celebrate a victory by capering about the room, one should really check and make sure he still has clean underwear on before he puts them on his head. Just saying.

The Minnesota Miscreants are due over today. Hmm, better go spread some kitty litter on the floor...

The Zulu army is sooo 1870's.

What if you change the goals? Attacking the British destroyers every time you had a reasonable shot might have been the wiser choice. No escorts, no convoys.

No Justicar. No Junior Justicar. Let's PARTY!!!!

I thought he was getting excited about the pole.

She's just about done with the nappy training, eh? Perv.

Any one that's bathed.

But they could. Plenty of time to bring the fighters back to the southern airfields when the invasion was on. And the bombers, don't even have to move those forward. What do you think they were going to do if it looked like they were losing the BoB? Keep losing? Nah, they would have pulled back, built their strength back up and bided their time. Between the RAF and a Royal Navy fleet sortie (plus a few British subs in there raising hell), the Germans would have been slaughtered. And they knew it too. Both the Navy and the Army refused to launch a Sealion without a guarantee of air superiority. The Germans really had a hell of a strategic problem. Not enough subs for a blockade. Navy half gone from the Norway invasion. No amphibious shipping or even any experience in it. And the wrong air force to just bomb Britain into submission, if that was even possible.

I just posted, you temporally challenged manky git! Don't make me go into time stamps! Oh, and please bring a turn on a floppy, as it seems you can't be arsed to e-mail them anymore.

How you going to force the RAF to fight if they didn't want too? Kesselring tried to bait them by bombing London, but the RAF always had the option of staying on the ground and waiting for the invasion fleet.