There is some justice ..........

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DT,

Honor and honesty are a joke ... This is not new and has been common in ... but of course to a greater or lesser degree has always been a part of human intercourse.

Human intercourse is no place for honesty! (talk about the collapse of civilization!)

[Michael Emrys]

Human intercourse is no place for honesty! (talk about the collapse of civilization!)

I find I must take issue with the rather extreme formulation of your sentiments, sir. Certainly without the lubrication of an occasional tactful lie, or even a diplomatic silence, the gears of society would soon cease to turn and none of us would dare to emerge from his fortified domicile without an armed escort. That should not be construed to mean however that no place whatsoever exists for the naked truth. There inevitably arise those moments when one must put one's cards on the table and stand or fall by them. To do otherwise would cast one as a weenie as well as a back-stabbing snake in the grass and unworthy of the company of real gentlemen.

I am, sir, at your service.

[dieseltaylor]

And for the Greeks more advanced corruption with politicians acting like American politicos : )

absolutely amazing

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303828304575179921909783864.html?mod=WSJ_article_related

Hiring to public-administration jobs surged last year as the right-leaning government struggled to restore its popularity in the face of scandals and economic slowdown. In the month before the fall election, the government added 27,000 people to the public payroll. Many had no position to fill, and not even an office to go to, according to finance ministry officials.

Cutting the civil-service rolls will be difficult. Under Greece's constitution, permanent government staffers enjoy guaranteed jobs for life.

Greece's 180,000 teachers give it one of the world's best teacher-student ratios. But numbers can be deceptive, Mr. Panaretos says, noting that about 20,000 teachers are in administration because there are no classrooms for them. Elsewhere, schools are overstaffed. One small school on a tiny island was found to have 15 physical-education teachers, while another had more teachers than students, Mr. Panaretos says.

And for the do as I say not as I do leadership program

http://www.observer.com/2010/politics/bloomberg%E2%80%99s-offshore-millions

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I find I must take issue with the rather extreme formulation of your sentiments, sir. Certainly without the lubrication of an occasional tactful lie, or even a diplomatic silence, the gears of society would soon cease to turn and none of us would dare to emerge from his fortified domicile without an armed escort. That should not be construed to mean however that no place whatsoever exists for the naked truth.

That's not taking issue. That's restatement/agreement.

There inevitably arise those moments when one must put one's cards on the table and stand or fall by them. To do otherwise would cast one as a weenie as well as a back-stabbing snake in the grass and unworthy of the company of real gentlemen.

I must admit to showing some prejudice as that particular aspect of human intercourse did not spring to mind. If one were so inclined, the minimum standard specification factor of one and a half times, would not in all probability be successful. However, when dealing with the assumed forms of human intercourse, the spec factor should be always used, again as an absolute minimum (note that factors of 3 and higher could lead to overpressure of the cognizance capacity of said partners). Not to mention the feedback/response angle. I shudder to imagine if all cards were laid on the table in that aspect. That in and of itself could and would invariably lead to the utter and total collapse of civilization. YMCA's would be overburdened and overflowing. I don't think that even sending the overflow to Keystone could help. No sir. You must not take the easy way out and use honesty. One must stand up for their country and civilization... "Yes dear, you look great in that dress!!!" is the only answer that can save civilization as we know it.

[Michael Emrys]

I say go for broke:

"Of course that pair of jeans makes your ass look big. Anything you put on is going to make your ass look big. That's because you have a big ass. Huge really. Absolutely enormous. Walking behind you is like following one of those pickups with dual wheels on the back."

I mean, do you really want to live forever?

Michael

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I say go for broke:

"Of course that pair of jeans makes your ass look big. Anything you put on is going to make your ass look big. That's because you have a big ass. Huge really. Absolutely enormous. Walking behind you is like following one of those pickups with dual wheels on the back."

I mean, do you really want to live forever?

Michael

Not forever, but I'd like to have some semblance of just a chance of reaching an average life expectancy. Your honesty method would guarantee no chance of/at that.

[costard]

I say go for broke:

"Of course that pair of jeans makes your ass look big. Anything you put on is going to make your ass look big. That's because you have a big ass. Huge really. Absolutely enormous. Walking behind you is like following one of those pickups with dual wheels on the back."

I mean, do you really want to live forever?

Michael

I'm pretty sure I'd be looking forward to death after being that honest. Suffering isn't my thing.