Edwin P. Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Pasive Minor Allies- ie Minor nations that allow your ships to transit their ports and be repaired there. Any attacks on ships in a Passive Allied Nation Port requires a declaration of war against that nation. Major Allied nation receives no production bonus from a Passive Minor Allied Nation. Also, If a Nation surrenders and has naval units in a Minor Allied Port, there is a 20% that those ships become units of that Minor Allied Nation. So: 1. True Neutral Nation 2. Passive Minor Ally 3. True Minor Nation Ally Example: UK ships could seek shelter in US ports while US is still neutral. If UK surrenders those ships have a 25% to become US Naval Units. Example: Turkey allows UK units to sail through the straits to the Black Sea. [ July 22, 2004, 11:33 AM: Message edited by: Edwin P. ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributar Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Passive Minor Allies: Sounds like another 'Great-Idea' Edwin P. The concept fits with the game,...it should add another 'touch of reality' to this abstract (rather than the recognizable representation of physical reality) wargame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Originally posted by Edwin P.: Example: Turkey allows UK units to sail through the straits to the Black Sea. Did Turkey actually allow warring countries to use the Dardanelles for warships before she entered the war? I didn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin P. Posted July 22, 2004 Author Share Posted July 22, 2004 "Officially", Turkey did not allow the warships from the warring countries to use the Daranelles until it joined the war. However, it would be interesting if you could expend diplomatic chits for a chance to convince them to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blashy Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 UK ships in Allied ports should IMHO go to that nation 100%. Think about it, you're invaded, you loose yet you still have troops outside the country, other countries are at war with the invaders, why surrender those troops if you know the fight is not over? I don't think it would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin P. Posted July 23, 2004 Author Share Posted July 23, 2004 In the event that your naval units are in another port when your country surrenders I think that 1 of 3 things will happen: 1. The 3rd party country will seize the ships (ie Spain/Turkey seizes the ships that are in its ports and addes them to their navy.) 2. The Crew gives up and goes home, after scuttling their ship. 3. The crew sets sail for an allied country that is still fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queipo de Llano Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 This is a very good idea. Another real-life example was Spain's allowing of German U-Boat crews to refit and repair and for replacement crews to transit across Spanish territory to the vessels. This actually played a very large role in the early stages of the Battle of the Atlantic before the Germans had fully established their U-Boat bases in occupied France. And the disposition of vessels after a surrender rings true as well. I am particularly reminded of 1918, when some Russian vessels in British ports were scuttled by their sailors but others were appropriated by the RN, becoming "British." (and ironically enough used against other former Imperial Navy ships in the hands of the "Bolos" during the Allied intervention 1n 1919.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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