THE COMPLETE SOVIET COMMAND LIST

[Kuniworth]

Originally posted by Sgt. Emren:

Kuniworth, would it be possible for you to post an update with whatever changes you've made, including the commanders from both sides?

I can do it like this if you like. I can start a thread tonight(at work right now) and add other famous generals not army group commanders.

[ June 09, 2004, 10:42 AM: Message edited by: Kuniworth ]

[Kuniworth]

coming up soon a complete list. Look out for it.

[Retributar]

More of for what it's worth!...

http://www.battlefront.co.nz/Article.asp?ArticleID=76

Intelligence Briefing On The Late War Soviet Army (1944-45)

The war in the east is no longer a struggle between Germany and the Soviet Union. By 1944 the Red Army was not just made up of Soviet citizens, but also Poles, Czechs and Bulgarians. This Intelligence Briefing can be used to represent any of these fine nations.

What’s New

The hard fighting of the eastern front has left the Soviet soldier more experienced, if a little less enthusiastic. Soviets troops are now rated as Confident, but now being Trained they no longer get mown down like so much chaff.

The arms race between the Soviets and the Germans continues in the east. Like the Germans the Soviets have been busy creating new designs as well as upgrading old ones. The IS series of heavy tanks and assault guns makes its appearance, the T-34 receives its ultimate upgrade, and SU assault gun is fitted with the Soviets greatest tank killing weapon, the 100mm gun.

The Iosef Stalin 2 (IS-2) gives the Soviet’s a heavy tank that can both take and hand out punishment. It has thick well-sloped armour capable of fending off most anti-tank rounds. Its 122mm gun opens up opponents armour as if they were tin cans. It even comes with a heavy AA machine gun for fending off what’s left of the Luftwaffe.

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The Steamroller Rolls On

Soviet victory is gained by applying superior numbers in combination with massed firepower. You need to overwhelm the enemy, keep advancing, firing while you do so. Your new superior weapons will destroy the enemy, and your strong confident Soviet soldiers will ignore casualties. The key to success is the will to victory of the proletariat masses.

The Soviet army of 1944-45 a technically much superior force from that of the mid war, skill levels are much improved among your solders, their weapons are better, and your enemy is in retreat. No longer do you have to rely alone on the raw courage of the men and women of the Red army. Victory will be yours!

[Kuniworth]

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Update may 13th 2005;

Kuznetsov value changed from 5 to 4.

Feduinskii value determined to 5

Chozin included - value 4.

Vortoshilov value changed from 3 to 4.

Vasilevskii value determined to 6.

[ May 13, 2005, 03:49 AM: Message edited by: Kuniworth ]

[roman uk]

apples and oranges they say.

It boggles the mind how Hitler's Barbarossa w/ 3million men and 3000 tanks could destroy 10,000+ tanks, 10,000+ planes, and take captive approx 3 million soldiers in 1941 alone.

Though much of that hardware was absolete, the Wehrmacht main battletank was the pzIII, and yet more than half of the armored forces was made up of pzt38, jpz-I, pzIImodels (hardly contemporary). The Soviets without doubt had the technology lead in tank design throughout the war, yet were losing huge number of machines.

Their soldiers bravery is easily attested to by the casualty counts sustained while continuing the fight. Overall population losses of 28 million (some say this is a lowball figure); how many countries would have stayed in the fight?

IMHO It was the Soviet's to lose all along. They almost achieved this feat partly due to poor generalship.

In the game The Axis formations must get a qualitative edge to demonstrate their success against superior numbers, even at the 'point of attack'.

[Kuniworth]

Roman; remember that in 1941 the germans outnumbered the russians at various front. For example western front, northwest front and around Leningrad for instance.

[jon_j_rambo]

The Russian leaders were stupid, the whole war was at war & they didn't even prepare.

[Curry]

Kuni great thread on the leaders really like them all.

[Tagwyn]

Kuni: Great work!! Thanks! The Red Army was the winner! The Germans are the ones who did not plan (no winter uniforms in front of Moscow). The Red Army was caught by Strategic Surprise and tactical inadequacy of thier leadership caused by the great purge. It is axiomatic that the Russians were prepared for the war but not to be attacked when they were attacked. Tag. PS: Who is the "living legend?" He suffers from a problem of arrogance which plaqued the Germans throughout the entire war.

[Kuniworth]

thanks guys. Remember; always stay gay(gay=happy).

[Kuniworth]

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