nirvana Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 hello to all the veterans here. I have some qns about movement commands that i hope the dudes here can throw some light on. 1) It seems that we can't advance or move or whatever and then set the next waypoint as assault. Isn't that what we want, move to a position nearer to the enemy before we carry out the assault. We can do the other way though- assault then move. 2)Can anyone confirm that conscript can't use the cover arc command as it is not mentioned anyway in the manual. 3)Does the infantry really dish out suppressive when advancing under enemy fire or is it just an abstraction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Dullard aka flyingcursor Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 That is true. I don't know if it's supposed to be that way or not. I don't remember what the manual said. Human wave attacks cannot be done if the unit has any other waypoints either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soddball Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 You're correct about conscript units not being able to 'cover arc'. Infantry will fire when on the run but the effectiveness and volume of that fire is very limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 About 3): Advancing infantry does "dish out fire", but their effectiveness all depends on how they're moving. If they're running or crawling they're basically not returning fire at all. If they're moving (walking) they will return fire but not very effectively. Same - I suppose - goes for human wave. If they're advancing you've got to imagine them rushing forward in bounds then hitting the dirt, giving their fellows covering fire, etc. That's why they tire so easily while advancing. But they do fire pretty effectively while advancing. [ December 09, 2002, 01:05 PM: Message edited by: MikeyD ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Manuel Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 Originally posted by nirvana: hello to all the veterans here. I have some qns about movement commands that i hope the dudes here can throw some light on. 1) It seems that we can't advance or move or whatever and then set the next waypoint as assault. Isn't that what we want, move to a position nearer to the enemy before we carry out the assault. We can do the other way though- assault then move.The gist of "Assault" is that your units have to prepare, get instructions from the Sarge or Lt., etc. So they have to begin from a halt, then start their assault. 2)Can anyone confirm that conscript can't use the cover arc command as it is not mentioned anyway in the manual.I guessing that you have the CDV "partial" manual where the rest is on a .pdf file somewhere? I believe you're right, though. 3)Does the infantry really dish out suppressive when advancing under enemy fire or is it just an abstraction?Yes, some, but more so while assaulting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nirvana Posted December 10, 2002 Author Share Posted December 10, 2002 The gist of "Assault" is that your units have to prepare, get instructions from the Sarge or Lt., etc. So they have to begin from a halt, then start their assault. Normally, assault begins in position close to the enemy- 10 or 20 meters maybe. I'm not sure the troops can get this close to the enemy before starting the assault. Wouldn't it be safer for a sarge to tell his charges to advance to a nearer position before starting an assault. I guessing that you have the CDV "partial" manual where the rest is on a .pdf file somewhere? I believe you're right, though. I do have the full manual, straight from battlefront itself. Thanks for all the advise, it will gonna make the game more fufilling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrapin Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 Not only can conscripts not use cover arc. Conscripts cannot ADVANCE or ASSAULT. Why this isn't mentioned in the manual (I have the book) is beyond me. I thought it was a bug the first time I saw it, and actually did a save file on it, before realizing what was happening. I think conscripts are considered troops that are lucky not to be tripping over their own feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarker Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 Page 75, if you have the same manual I have has specs on Advance and Assault commands. "Order not available to: ...all conscripts..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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