Little_Black_Devil Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 I was reading another post here - and the question occured to me; Are pistol ports actually rendered (and used) wihtin CMBO? I don't think they are. I can't think of any AFV's which still had them by 1944 which are in CMBO - but I could be wrong. Most importantly - I relate this to CMBB; If pistol ports are not available as yet - might they be in CMBB, or a patch perhaps? Or is really worth the effort? Don't get me wrong, I don't think pistol ports actually did a lot to provide a tank with any fearsome means of local defence. It would still be nice to see though. I recall a few scenes out of a IHF video I have called "Men Against Tanks and Engineers to the Front", where you actually see an example of when a pistol port would have been used. While the acting was "hokey" to say the least, it was still interesting to watch - I mean after all, this was a training video of sorts. Perhaps pistol ports actually were something to be feared after all? I have to admit - that while I will likely lose the battle only to have my face rubbed in it, all I want is bragging rights after one of my tank crewman cap some cocky enemy Infantryman attempting a close assault; by way of the pistol port. Then I'd be cool - oh yea! :cool: Who needs a major victory when I've got a pistol port kill. So what does everyone else think, 'am I right out of 'er on this one or what? [ July 17, 2002, 07:27 PM: Message edited by: Little_Black_Devil ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Beman Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 The coding necessary to represent one or several additional weapons per vehicle is not worth whatever combat effectiveness could be derived from the weapons involved. DjB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cg84 Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Brian...I think your right out of 'er. Look you even became an officer, a prime example of being "right outta 'er if I ever saw one:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Black_Devil Posted July 18, 2002 Author Share Posted July 18, 2002 LOL, Hi Mike! Thanks for the feedback Doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Sounds to me like what you really want are some kills with the rear turret HMG on Soviet heavy tanks . Now THERE are some bragging rights . Pistol ports aren't, AFAIK, explicitly modelled since they had such little impact ( limited zone of fire, visibility etc). Those rear MGs are fun though . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_Black_Devil Posted July 18, 2002 Author Share Posted July 18, 2002 I pretty much figured as much. I DO look forward to those rear firing MG's in the Soviet KV's though. I may not get my pistol ports....but I WILL get my "bragginf rights" from one of these puppies...even if it costs me my tank Thanks Fionn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holman Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 I wonder if pistol ports couldn't be abstracted into the ability of an AFV to defend against close assault. Assaulters attacking a vehicle with good ports should be more likely to fail. (Of course, I don't know if the calculations for close assaults take some kind of AFV-specific defense value into consideration at all. Perhaps it all depends on the assaulter's values. Anyone?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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