flamingknives Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 Does the M in M26 stand for magnetic or does the German 150mm IG have a special Pershing-Seeking ability? Every time I end up with a Pershing or two, there is always a kraut 150mm that knocks them out with one shot each at ranges up to 500m (bearing in mind that 6pdrs at this range miss more frequently) Also, the AI gunners seem to specialise in 'head shots' i.e. hitting front turret on shermans more often than any other part of the tank. Does anyone else experience this, as it is really starting to P*%& me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameroon Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 See Bullethead's reply to this post What those designations REALLY mean. Quite a classic really. [ February 26, 2002, 11:25 PM: Message edited by: Cameroon ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
109 Gustav Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Aww, Cameroon beat me to it Without a doubt, the #1 best thread ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaker Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Hmm, that 150mm shouldn't be that accurate. This doesn't happen consistently over many games does it? The 150's are of a lower velocity and aren't accurate. At least, not for me And don't worry about German guns of 75mm or greater calibre finding the turret front of the Shermans. With those guns it doesn't matter where it hits, it's a lost soda can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaker Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Oh, in reading the old thread about the *ahem* "M" designations, IMO it is flawed. How would you correctly categorize the M26 Pershing? There's no way it lasts 26 or 13 rounds! With every long-barelled 75/88mm gun aiming at him he'd be lucky to last 2 turns past his first exposure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tero Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 Originally posted by Warmaker: Hmm, that 150mm shouldn't be that accurate. This doesn't happen consistently over many games does it? The 150's are of a lower velocity and aren't accurate. At least, not for me That is always the case: the opponent gets the Daniel Boone variety gunners why friendly gunners cant hit worth a damn. Drawing your attention to the überChurchill CS-models and the überSherman 105 I'd say there seems to be indications there is a discrepency between the HE and the AP (HEAT) ammo performance in the bigbore guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted February 28, 2002 Author Share Posted February 28, 2002 It happens EVERY time I get Pershings in a QB and the 150mms ALWAYS get a first round kill. In the latest travesty, a veteran 150mm engaged and destroyed 2 M26s and an M4 with a 90 degree separation between the M26s and at least 200m range. The regular tanks replied with some half dozen shots which did nothing. The map was heavily wooded, so only 1 gun was able to engage the tanks at a time. bah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaBellum Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 Originally posted by flamingknives: ... The map was heavily wooded, so only 1 gun was able to engage the tanks at a time. bah...What were you doing with Pershings on a heavily wooded map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
109 Gustav Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 Originally posted by Warmaker: Oh, in reading the old thread about the *ahem* "M" designations, IMO it is flawed. How would you correctly categorize the M26 Pershing? There's no way it lasts 26 or 13 rounds! With every long-barelled 75/88mm gun aiming at him he'd be lucky to last 2 turns past his first exposure!Actually, you are correct. The problem is the pershing's thin turret armor when compared to the hull armor. This variation in armor created a very wide range in survivability during field testing. Some tanks would last as long as six minutes, while others went WHOOOSH in a huge fireball in just two minutes. Therefore, it was decided to name this new tank the M 2-6 Pershing, since its combat life ranged from 2-6 minutes. This would have worked well, IMHO, except that the painters at ordanance depots tended to be lazy, and usually wanted to save as much time as possible so they could go to more USO shows. They found that they could save quite a bit of time by painting M26 on the tanks, rather than M2-6. This is how the pershing came to be known as the M26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 I must debate Gustav's claim, rather, it was seen that The Army officers responsible for the designing of the M26 believed it would be much enchancing to their careers should its mortality be ranked highly. Since the Pershing rarely saw armored combat an "A" could not be established, thus the M26A3, as it woud have been known after enough combat trials, never came to fruitatation. This also explains why it was considered unessecary to designate WHOOSH chances on these tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted February 28, 2002 Author Share Posted February 28, 2002 What were you doing with Pershings on a heavily wooded map? It was a QB with random choice units. I got 4 M26s If you think that's bad , I tried again and got 3 churchill crocadiles and 5 challengers (if only they were the nice shiny new ones). Guess what? 150mm IGs eat Churchills for breakfast too. bah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaBellum Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 Lol! Yes, the AI sometimes picks, uhm, interesting forces... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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