junk2drive Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Warning, this is not about CMx2 I want to put together a set of Andrew's German uniforms for early war Europe and Sealion. I have his Crete, Sealion, and CMBB mods. The CMBB has green and subdued and the C/S are grey. What would be the most accurate? What would the handful of players want to use? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 j2d, would this include 1:1 modelling? If you also remove borg spotting, will PBEM playability still be supported? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junk2drive Posted March 4, 2005 Author Share Posted March 4, 2005 I'll have to get back to you on that, misplaced my Magic 8 ball. BTW, have an opinion on the topic? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David I Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Junk, I think AndrewTF's (The Great and Powerfull) HEER 1 is just what you are looking for. The Infantry uniform is still about the same as was worn in Poland in '39, with dark green collars, etc. You want to use the helmet with both the shield and eagle on it. Early war LW same same. Early war SS would be best with Heer early war tunics with SS insigna. What is the basis of your overall mod? CMAK NA, mid or late war? I ask this because you need seperate arm BMPs for the SS to look right. I think someone did a SS runes on helmet mod, I don't think I liked it much. Maybe it just needs tweeking. David 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junk2drive Posted March 4, 2005 Author Share Posted March 4, 2005 April 44 if I want USA and French in the same uniforms. German and USA mid war. May 44 if I want USA and French in different uniforms. German and French mid, USA late. June 44 on late war. Did the SS do battle in 39-40? 41? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David I Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Junk, Not too sure I understand your response. What does the US have to do with France 40, Sealion? :confused: In 1940 the SS LAH had a motorized Regiment(?) and there was the SS Verfungstruppe Division. SS-V was really the start of the Waffen SS Divisions. It had a mediocre record in France (including a couple of prisoner execution incidents), but gained invaluable combat experience. It was broken up between the 1st three Waffen SS Divisions. By July 1941 there were 4 WSS Divisions with a 5th and 6th forming. Pick up a copy of "Hitler's Legions" gives a thumbnail history and a OOB for every German Division in WWII. DavidI PS. With the Heer 1 uniforms mentioned above, use the optional grey pants for a good 1940 look. DI 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junk2drive Posted March 4, 2005 Author Share Posted March 4, 2005 David I will email you when I get home. Doesn't Andrew's CMBB Heer 41 have green smocks or jackets or coats with grey pants? I remember having this kind of discussion before with Andrew and others and the green is the way to go, but Andrew's Sealion uses his Crete greys. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David I Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Doesn't Andrew's CMBB Heer 41 have green smocks or jackets or coats with grey pants? I remember having this kind of discussion before with Andrew and others and the green is the way to go, His (the Great & Powerful) Heer 41 has 3 sub-sets: 1. "Green" uniforms (this is Heer standard fieldgrey uniforms - I would do your 1940 officers in this, use the optional grey pants). 2. "Subdued" uniforms (This is dusty, dirty, faded, beatup standard fieldgrey uniforms - I would do your 1940 squads & crews in this, use the optional grey pants). 3. "winter" uniforms, not applicable in 1940. but Andrew's Sealion uses his Crete greys. I think here you are talking about his Fallschirmjagers in jump smocks, different bunch o'dudes entirely. I look forward to your email. DavidI 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junk2drive Posted March 4, 2005 Author Share Posted March 4, 2005 I have a Heer 1 dated 10/2002 and a cmmos Heer 41-42 dated 1/2003. They contain M36 green smocks. Later versions are grey smocks IIRC. If you go to Andreas' Sealion site and download Andrew's Sealion set, you will see the grey that I talk about. The FJ CMAK Crete are slightly green over grey pants. My SS question is regarding scenario designers using SS in this timeframe. If no SS battles, no need for mod. Early out Friday, email sent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junk2drive Posted March 4, 2005 Author Share Posted March 4, 2005 David I emailed you pics and bumped the old thread about grey and green ETO mods. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painfbat Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 ============================================== My SS question is regarding scenario designers using SS in this timeframe. If no SS battles, no need for mod. ============================================== Guess I'm a little bit late but, but next to shooting gen. Student in the head the SS actually did some fighting in the Netherlands. They weren't very succesfull( beside shooting POW's and using them for cover), got their ass kicked a few times, sucked some heroic stories out of their tumbs to give honour to their name LAH, but some moments were they got their ass kicked are worth a scenario. Just to show what a few brave Dutch did. Some SS units in the Netherlands may 1940: - SS Leibstandarte AH - SS Standarte Der Fuhrer - 4 abt. + 2 abt./Art.Reg. SS Verfug. Div. Cheers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junk2drive Posted April 25, 2005 Author Share Posted April 25, 2005 Thanks for the post painfbat I'm working on a Sept 1939 Saar Offensive battle. Crap tanks vs crap tanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painfbat Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Sounds like modern crap to me. Dutch Army "re-enlisted" 1878 and 1880 arty to stop German tanks. I just finnished the 2nd map. Got some 7 maps to go. Didn't have much time lately, but time flies when you're having fun. I'm making BB and AK versions. I had a little fun whit the Sealion stuf, using the French as Dutch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junk2drive Posted April 26, 2005 Author Share Posted April 26, 2005 Phoney War 1939 is at the proving grounds if you would like to look at it. You might concider using South Afrikans for Dutch in your battles. At least the flags have orange on them. IIRC some of the troop names are Dutch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEY Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 I found this site several days ago, a lot of the links seem to be dead, which seems to be the growing trend with the internet these days. I'm sure your likely well aware of this place though. http://france1940.free.fr/en_index.html#BEF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painfbat Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Well, I'm a little bit late again, my computer scrashed so I have to restart the work again, and I crashed while driving a m-bike. So far the fun I had the last few days. I have a small question for Junk, as it seems that CMAK only contains the Fallshirmjager and not Luftlande-troops. Can you tell if it's possible to take the Luftlande-BMP from CMBB and renumber them for CMAK lets say in place of the Luftwaffe infantry??. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junk2drive Posted May 10, 2005 Author Share Posted May 10, 2005 Sorry about your accident. The wireframes for soldiers in BB an AK is basically the same. Helmets are different for the nations. Since there is no gameplay difference between types of soldiers, only squad man numbers etc, you can put any uniform on any body. ie, I have Soviet uniforms on Heer Jager for North Koreans. If LW infantry is available in late war Italy, you choose that date in the editor, select those troops, the change the date to whatever you want. CMAKdb shows LW infantry starting June 44, 9 man squads. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junk2drive Posted May 10, 2005 Author Share Posted May 10, 2005 Andrew Fox has already done ETO uniform mods for CMAK for Heer, SS, LW at cmmods (down at this time). Less than 2mb each. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painfbat Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Things aren't just going the way I planned, I'm not having much time lately to work on the scenario's. But I've found this link, just to let you'll know what I'm working on: http://www.sonic.net/~bstone/archives/041024.shtml 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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