tooz Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 What happens to AFVs that you voluntarily remove from the map--are they returned on map during the next battle or gone forever? If you tell me "check the manual" note that I have already done so. At least tell me what page --in the CMBB manual, my CMAK "booklet" doesn't tell me much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussi Köhler Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 I believe they are lost forever. The world is flat you know, they fall over the edge to the bottomless abyss or something. Seriously though, they are lost but the opponent does not get points for them as if the were destroyed. I think... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Any unit withdrawn (or routed) off the map in an Op is lost forever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooz Posted March 27, 2004 Author Share Posted March 27, 2004 Thanks guys, for the quick response. So, infantry that routs off the map are returned, but AFVs that voluntarily leave the battlefield for reasons such as gun repair. are lost forever. Hmmm. Does this make sense to anyone? :confused: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emar Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Although vehicles are lost if you retreat them off the map abandoned and damaged vehicles and crew served guns will often be returned to the fight in later battles depending on the length of the op (unless they are burned out, burned out vehicles never return). The trick is to pull back gun damaged vehicles to a point on the map out of the enemy line of sight. When the next battle starts it may not be there but it may return in subsequant battles. I have had "abandoned" tanks and guns returned in the very next battle. The trick with that is to pull back the surviving crew to safety for the remainder of the current battle. (if they die or exit the map then the tank will not return) Not sure but would assume that the abandoned vehicle would also have to remain within friendly lines at the end of the current battle Hope this helps [ March 27, 2004, 03:01 PM: Message edited by: Emar ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Tooz, re. Emar's explanation That's why I continued to 'Knock Out' your abandoned Shermans in our last Op to stop them coming back repaired in later battles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_no_one Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 Originally posted by Wicky: Tooz, re. Emar's explanation That's why I continued to 'Knock Out' your abandoned Shermans in our last Op to stop them coming back repaired in later battles. Good tip Wicky!I didnt know you could do that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emar Posted March 27, 2004 Share Posted March 27, 2004 In CM unless a tank is burned out it can be repaired or remanned in ops and targeting abandoned or knocked out vehicles until they catch fire is allowed in the game engine. Putting a few rounds into knocked out or abandoned tanks until they brewed up is actualy a real world tactic used by both sides during the war. Tanks and AFVs which were burned out were usually beyond repair and the intense heat often melted all wiring and made the metal good for little more than scrap. I always use this tactic when playing ops as the Germans. If I knock out a firefly I dont want it coming back at me again in battle 6 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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