Tank Blocking LOS

[junk2drive]

CMBO, I'm viewing the movie, I click on an Axis Gun? to see what he is firing at. The thick red line goes to my Allied infantry squad. An AVRE motors along in front of the troops. The red line gets thin as the tank moves across the LOS of the gun. Then the line disappears. Turn ends.

CMBO only?

[The Colonel]

I've never seen it in CMBB. I've even done some experimenting to see if infantry can hide behind tanks. The exposure numbers for the infantry was the same whether they were in the open or behind a tank, which leads me to believe there is no impact on LOS or cover from tanks. (Contrary to what the Strategy Guide tells you). But, I wish there were. How many old photos have we seen with a squad of infantry crouched down behind a tank as it moves forward? Seems like it was a fairly common practice. I know that's where I'd be.

[dieseltaylor]

Good for the photos! I have read that in Normandy tanks were also considered as fire magnets - and also they had a nasty habit of spotting something and deciding to reverse suddenly ---- a bit of a two edged sword.

[General Bolt]

In my early daze of CMBBing I lost many squads "hiding behind" tanks. In CM tanks are defined a point in space. The only time they block LOS/LOF for infantry is when they are flaming and generating smoke. I'd like to see a screeney in your CMBO game.

I've read on defense the Russians would dig in and place MGs under knocked out tanks. Instant overhead protection.

Hopefully tanks will block small arms LOF in CM2X.

[junk2drive]

Wouldn't you know that I played on and replaced the auto save.

I tried to duplicate it, but the AVRE gets knocked out by another threat.

[Holman]

junk2drive,

I'm pretty sure that you experienced a coincidence. I've been playing CM since the CMBO beta demo, and it has always been clearly stated by the designers that vehicles do not block line of sight. (Of course buring vehicles do, but that's the smoke, not the vehicle.)

Perhaps the axis gun switched to targeting the tank instead of the infantry.

[junk2drive]

You could be right. I thought it odd that the target line went thin then disappeared.

Last night in a CMAK battle I had a PZIVC visually half way into a house, fire through the house and knock out a M5 Stuart.

[athlete]

Originally posted by The Colonel:

The exposure numbers for the infantry was the same whether they were in the open or behind a tank, which leads me to believe there is no impact on LOS or cover from tanks.

These 'exposure numbers' is there somewhere in the game that you get these or is this something you've gotten out of the strategy guide?

[The Colonel]

The best way to get them is to use the scenario editor and open up any scenario. Then go to map editor and map preview. While your on the preview map you can move both sides forces around into different terrain. Then set an opposing force unit nearby and use the LOS tool. It will display the relative exposure of any unit you hold the cursor over. You can learn alot about how the game thinks by messing around with this. Somebody also put together a table that I can email you on all the exposure numbers.