German & Soviet large ammo markings/ pics?

[ww2steel]

I know this isn't completely CMBB related...

I am making a set of dummy large caliber ammo for German and Soviet tank guns and field guns. Does anyone know a good resource for markings, coloration, etc of these ammo types. Measurements are of utmost importance too. Does anyone remmeber if Aberdeen has the bigger ammo inside in their display?

Thanks for any input!

Mike

[ April 30, 2007, 02:22 PM: Message edited by: ww2steel ]

[John Kettler]

ww2steel,

For starters, here's the Russian ammunition designation system. Be sure to use the internal link to the projectile definitions as well.

http://www.battlefield.ru/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=140&Itemid=68

152mm ML-20 howitzer mit projectile

http://www.o5m6.de/152mm_ML-20.html

122mm Corps Gun A-19 mit projectile

http://www.battlefield.ru/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=144&Itemid=68

What I think will really help., though, is for you to consult the wonderful color shots on pp. 23, 50-51 of the Beekman House TANKS & WEAPONS OF WORLD WAR II. Covers 20 mm through 128mm.

Hogg's THE ILLUSTRATED ENCYCLOPEDIA OF AMMUNITION

has many helpful photos and drawings.

Have you investigated Dragon and Verlinden for aftermarket scale ammo with accurate markings?

This confirms the utility of the latter and provides valuable paint color info.

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=84066

Munitions Technology Research Center gallery

http://www.munitionstech.com/stlisting.php?category_id=8&parent_id=8

This one's worth its weight in gold. Ammunition & Ordnance Treatise

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/stephen.johnson/arms/

A few items here.

http://www.inertord.com/projectiles.html

Lots of color comparison pics here.

http://home.comcast.net/~shelsrus/wsb/html/view.cgi-home.html-.html

Big Ordnance. Name says it all!

http://www.big-ordnance.com/

Another great inert ordnance site

http://www.inert-ord.net/

This may or may not help--UXO online guide

http://www.hdic.jmu.edu/ordata/disclaimer.asp

In closing, I highly recommend you hunt down the various Explosive Ordnance volumes produced by the U.S., U.K. , etc. in the period of interest. Some of these have been reprinted or may even be on CD-ROM. This one's available via PDF or hard copy.

http://www.stormingmedia.us/59/5966/A596673.html

Ammo manual photocopies.

http://www.military-info.com/MPHOTO/P110.htm

Regards,

John Kettler

[ May 03, 2007, 09:10 PM: Message edited by: John Kettler ]

[ww2steel]

HOLY COW! Thanks!

[John Kettler]

ww2steel,

You're most welcome! Let us know how your project turns out.

Regards,

John Kettler