mudder Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Does anyone know where I can get some good information on how to best use my artillery? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Search the tips & tricks forum? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 I can tell you though, one basic mistake that many beginners do is to think that your artillery has the biggest effect when you drop it on your enemy. That is totally wrong. When your barrage falls on your enemy, it maybe pins the enemy down and causes some light casualties. But if you drop that same barrage on your own troops, the effects are usually far greater. So for getting the most bang out of your artillery, use it against your own infantry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudder Posted November 22, 2004 Author Share Posted November 22, 2004 I only shell my own troops when they are retreating. Thanks for the tip. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwdjohn Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Why is the Allied advantage in artillery so undermodelled by scenario designers? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone_Vulture Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by throwdjohn: Why is the Allied advantage in artillery so undermodelled by scenario designers? Care to throw an example? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 That advantage would depend on the situation. Soviets were great on preparing for large scale offensives, but that kind of stuff is out of the scope of CM scenarios - not much point in watching a barrage that lasts for two hours followed by Red infantry taking over abandoned positions. In most cases these things are considered to have already taken place, hence the craters, casualties etc. when you start a scenario. By the time the attack begins, the focus of the artillery would have moved to the rear, to disrupt reserves. After a breakthrough was made, however, moving all that artillery and the munitions the artillery needed posed a problem, made worse by the condition of roads - what was not blown or mined by retreating Germans, would be turned into a quagmire by the attack columns. For Russians to regain that advantage, they would have to halt the attack. I could point you to my battle "Niet Molotoff!" which features a brief realistic-sized Finnish artillery barrage from 1944. It's very powerful (in fact, that barrage kills something like a quarter of the defenders). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Originally posted by Sergei: I could point you to my battle "Niet Molotoff!" which features a brief realistic-sized Finnish artillery barrage from 1944. It's very powerful (in fact, that barrage kills something like a quarter of the defenders). I can attest to that. I am currently playing this scenario as the Russians and that initial barrage is devastating. Lascar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Hehehe.... I feel quite evil, now. Let me know how it goes, it has been tested single player only. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 We are on turn 37 and I have prevented the Finns from breaking through my lines but I am dangerously thin in places with squads of one or two men holding 50 to 100 meters of the line. I don't think my opponent realizes the extent to which my platoons have been weakened or else he would be pushing through those sectors very aggressively. FOW is my ally. The initial artillery barrage was quite demoralizing. Three tanks suffered gun damage, the OT-34 was immobilized and many platoons were decimated. Those tree bursts were particularly murderous. I thought the barrage would never end; it was one of worst I have experienced playing CM. Good thing for the timely arrival of the reserve companies, otherwise the Finns would have cracked my line by now. So far an interesting and intense battle. Lascar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David I Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Lascar, Try playing the Germans in CMAK's "Panic at Gela" against a human. The Yanks have tons of 105 and 150mm arty, bunches of TRP's, good fields of LOS, and enough infantry & AT to hold you in the killing zone. I can attest that 150's will flatten Pz III's & IV's. DavidI 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Russian Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 I designed the CMAK scenario HSG 3AD SS Slugfest to highlight American Armored Division firepower. A lot of that is from artillery. The German players often complain about the demoralizing effects of it. So you may try that one as well for practice. It comes in both head to head and vs the AI versions. Good Hunting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon988 Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 I took Axis during "Panic at Gela" against a human player as well. Oh the horror... I took ten times more casualties than he did. Plucky little Yanks. Any scenario's out there besides the Finnish one already mentioned (will have to check it out) that utilize some really large scale artillery barrages? It's so rare that I see anything higher than 150mm these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37mm Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Boxing day in Russia is a small(ish) battle that has some big guns & explosions, certainly for a scenario of that size... its best as PBEM but tough for the Germans 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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