Elmar Bijlsma Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 In the context of my whole CMBB/Allied General campaign I just had my heaviest and most embarrasing defeat ever. I had 6 BT-5s attack 4 Finnish pilboxes + 4 Boys AT rifles with 5 105mm FOs in support. I placed my tanks tread to tread and wanted to fast move across the 2400 meter neutral ground as quickly as possible. Arty hadn't been neither remotely accurate or effective before and should easily be avoided by moving along. Besides that, the AI only throws smoke at large tank formations. Well yes, they would if they had any. Amazingly, a few hours earlier I had read on a thread around here that the Fins didn't use any smoke shells. I just wasn't thinking about it when setting up. So I press go and imidiately rounds start coming in. The first shell takes out TWO BT-5s, the second shell another. Another one BT dies later in the same volley. One dies a volley later while one manages to hold on till the third volley. The BT-5s never even had a chance to move! The barrage then kills every single tank crew. In the first turn. That's right, not a single survivor. Turns out 4 FOs had LOS to my setup zone from about 3 kilometers. Ow. I think I'll cry myself to sleep. Damn Uber-Finns! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Night night, sleep tight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Hogan Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Well, (sigh) thats what you get for jumping on the bed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrapGame Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Hmmmmph....... A real Finn wouldn't have needed that many FOs. They would have used rocks or snowballs or wads of rolled up toilet tissue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerxes Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Bah, real Finns don't even use spotting rounds, they just caculate the trajectories for 5 separate shells and they'd hit 5 stationary BT5s no problem. Ok, well it might really take a total of 6 or 7 shells in practice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMuhammed Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Your underestimating them again. They would only use one round and trust the flying pieces of the destroyed tank to take out the others. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PondScum Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Originally posted by sgtgoody (esq): Your underestimating them again. They would only use one round and trust the flying pieces of the destroyed tank to take out the others. Trust? TRUST? Finns don't rely on trust! They would CALCULATE the trajectories of the flying pieces of destroyed tank, and choose the correct place to hit it so that the pieces would take out the other tanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tero Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 Originally posted by PondScum: Trust? TRUST? Finns don't rely on trust! They would CALCULATE the trajectories of the flying pieces of destroyed tank, and choose the correct place to hit it so that the pieces would take out the other tanks. You mean like this : In case it does not show up see http://uk.geocities.com/lepte2000/WWII_photos.html the picture at the bottom. NOTE: these are not BT's but I think the picture is graphic enough. [ June 07, 2003, 06:28 AM: Message edited by: Tero ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted June 7, 2003 Author Share Posted June 7, 2003 An UberFinn doesn't need to have a working link to show you a picture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tools4fools Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 And he doesn't need a magnifying glass to look at tiny pictures... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipez Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 BT-5s are not that strongly armored 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted June 8, 2003 Author Share Posted June 8, 2003 Lightly armoured or not, losing all six of them in the first twenty seconds of a game is pretty bad. :eek: {edited: poor chpellink} [ June 08, 2003, 07:37 AM: Message edited by: Tweety ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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