Mad Russian Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Scenario Submissions for The Proving Grounds tournament, The King Of The Hill 2: The scenarios should not be larger than a battalion per side. However you want to mix that up you can. Engineer fortifications do not count towards that. There is no point total that we are looking for.. just scenarios that are not too big and will play on most machines. No longer than 40 turns and the turn limit set not variable. The designer can change that later if they want. The scenarios for the tournament will be picked by a panel of 10 judges. If you're interested in being a judge let me know. If your scenario is selected for play you cannot play in the tournament. The scenario can be either in CMAK or CMBB. It can be fiction, semi-historical or historical. Your choice! Send them to me directly. Send them to: sro_cm@yahoo.com You must be a member of The Proving Grounds to submit scenarios for the contest. Good Luck and Good Hunting. PC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 What is the deadline? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Russian Posted December 29, 2006 Author Share Posted December 29, 2006 King of the Hill 2 Tournament Scenarios Here you go, you great CM scenario designers, all the specifics about the contest. All scenarios must be new. No scenarios that have been posted to public sites will be accepted. This is simply so that all players see the scenarios for the first time in the tournament. No more than 40 turns and the turn limit being set to a specific number not variable ending. No larger than a battalion per side. I don't care how you mix and match, I want no more than a battalion, that is 3 companies, per side! I consider 10 vehicles to be a company. All scenarios for the first round should be recieved by me no later than 28 February 2007. On 1 March 2007, they go to the judges, so they can pick which ones go into first round. Those not chosen for the first round will be automatically considered for the second round. There may be possible suggestions made for playbalance at that time. Those designers that submit scenarios for the tournament cannot play in the tournament. Sorry guys, you don't get to play your own scenarios in the tournament. I look forward to your work. Have it to me no later than 28 February 2007. Send it to: sro_cm@yahoo.com Good Luck and Good Hunting. PC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Will the names of the judges be announced soon? Will it be possible to send prospective submissions to the judges for playtesting before the deadline? Would be a shame to work on a scen and not have it tested by a third party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Russian Posted January 3, 2007 Author Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: Will the names of the judges be announced soon? Will it be possible to send prospective submissions to the judges for playtesting before the deadline? Would be a shame to work on a scen and not have it tested by a third party. Send the scenario directly to me. sro_cm@yahoo.com The judges will get them 1 March. Good Hunting. PC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 What can you tell me about the scoring for the tourney? Will it be done solely on point per game, or will all the Germans in Scen 1 be rated against all the other Germans in Scen 1, etc.? The reason I ask is that my scenario has a Bonus in it since the situation is rather unique. I think it evens things out balance wise, but still, if tourney scoring is done solely on points per game, there will be a discrepancy there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juan_gigante Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Do the scenarios have to be balanced? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by juan_gigante: Do the scenarios have to be balanced? Exactly - that's the short version of what I was asking, but it's an incredibly important question. I think the best tourneys I've been involved with were ones where some scenarios were deliberately unbalanced. It meant that you never knew for sure what forces were up against you - however, it involved using a sliding scale kind of measurement against only players who took the same nationality as you did in the same scenario, rather than comparing raw scores directly with your opponent. As scenario designers, we need to know which system the tournament will use in order to provide the best and fairest scens possible. Also - do they have to be historical (ie can they be fictional?) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Russian Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: What can you tell me about the scoring for the tourney? Will it be done solely on point per game, or will all the Germans in Scen 1 be rated against all the other Germans in Scen 1, etc.? The reason I ask is that my scenario has a Bonus in it since the situation is rather unique. I think it evens things out balance wise, but still, if tourney scoring is done solely on points per game, there will be a discrepancy there. Yes, the scenarios need to be balanced. No, you can't send the scenarios directly to the judges. Yes, the judges have been chosen already. We will give you until the last day of February to work on the scenarios. Then the judges will get to look over them, pick which of those they like best, and work with the designers on play balance. KOTH2 scoring is by CM standards. You win or lose by what CM says you've done. If CM says you got a draw then we go to points. If the points are EXACTLY the same then you get a draw. Otherwise somebody wins. However you want your scenario to play out is up to you. Whether, or not, the judges will select it for the tournament, I can't say. That will depend on several things: 1) The number of scenarios entered. 2) The balance of the scenarios in the judges eyes. 3) The number of rounds in the scenario, which is determined by the number of gamers that enter the tournament. Balance will have a large part in whether the scenario gets picked or not. However the judges for this tournament are all very experienced. Many of them top designers themselves and they should be able to offer excellent suggestions for play balance. Anything else? PC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Russian Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 Originally posted by juan_gigante: Do the scenarios have to be balanced? Yes, the scenarios should be balanced. The tournament uses standard CM scoring. Whatever is on the AAR page as a result is what you get in the tournament. The judges have from 1 March to 5 June to work with the designers on play balance and these guys are VERY GOOD designers/playtesters. They come from several different CM sites around the web and are some of the best in the CM community. Any other questions? PC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Russian Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 The scenarios for the tournament will also allow a designer to make a scenario that is not restricted by points but by size. Up to a battalion on each side. With 10 vehicles counting as a company. Support weapons and engineer obstaccles/fortifications not counting in the total. So whether you want 2 companies of King Tigers and Company of PG, or 3 companines of recon infantry the scenario will be good. Points is not the issue but the number of units in the fight. Since normal support weapons like LMG, Snipers, HMG, etc....belong to a company sized unit they will not be counted either. Now if you decide to put in 500 HMG's along with 3 companies of infantry I'm pretty sure that won't fly....but if you do the normal allotment of 3-6 HMG's per company I'm pretty sure that will. The judges will determine what makes it into the tournament. If for some unforseen reason there is an issue the judges can't resolve I will resolve it. Show off your skills! The scenarios can be about anything. And whether or not the scenarios are chosen you will get good experience and feedback from some very experienced judges. You will get direct feedback if you send in a scenario. The feedback may be as simple as, "this is too big, cut a company on the Soviet side". Or it may be something like, " the map is a bit too small and you need to add 3 turns." Whatever it is we will get back with you. We want good quality scenarios and the way to get them is support your scenario making efforts. Remember...you have until the last day of February to get those scenarios to me! Be careful who you use as playtesters! If the person you use as a playtester may enter the tournament and end up playing it again. That is not what we want. If you need playtesters let me know. PC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I'd like some playtesters, I have scenarios in development. Just finishing testing on one and have made some changes but could certainly use some help before I submit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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