kurt88 Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 A houserule has been added to Curry's league. Check the sticky by OAK on top!(1st post) If you have any question regarding the new rule you can mail them to me (kurt_vanlooy@hotmail.com) or Curry (ForDiplomacy@msn.com). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordy Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Is the new house rule the respond in a week one? If so, maybe it should be changed to 10 days with the warning period of 4 days (two weeks total). I know I sometimes have to go out of town on business on short notice, and while I try and inform the people I am playing, sometimes I cannot. Most of these trips are about 1 week long. Then when I get home it takes a couple days to unpack, read mail, read email, do laundry, etc, etc... So I may lose my game or worse and not even know until its too late. With 10 and 4 days I think it would just be better. Its PBEM, so my feeling is the period of no-responsiveness should be a little longer. If I had time, I would be playing TCP. Just my thoughts, it doesn't really matter to me. I think I'm on good terms with the administrators anyway. Expecially Curry, who's kicking my A** right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blashy Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 AND I've emailed quite a few people for matches and I think 3 never responded (2 for sure). I never said anything about it. I'm not about to start tracking who responds, how many days it has been and whatnot. If they don't respond then the answer to play is no. If you want to track this so you can remove people that stopped playing and just forgot to remove themselves from the league. I suggest you just stick to the "If inactive for 3 months you will be removed" . Its PBEM, a simple no hassle league, I'm not taking my matches seriously myself, what I mean is the 1st 2 I played I tried 1 whacky thing in each match. I won't do this in all of them but I don't care if my record is 0-15, I'm just playing it because its fun and don't intend to start taking this game like a duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curry Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Thanks to Kurt for doing this. Kurt has become co-admin and is as much in charge as I am. I think we will be flexible. The spirit of the rule is so that we dont have players who start a game, then just stop, or quit when things look bad for them. The right thing would be to post the loss if you quit the game once it has begun. It would be best for all the players to weed those players out. Or else they will be starting games with many players in the league and then simply quitting and wasting a lot of our limited gaming time. If anyone has a better idea of how we can achieve that goal let us know. Perhaps Kurt can add his view he may be able to express himself better than I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt88 Posted October 10, 2003 Author Share Posted October 10, 2003 Well,the purpose of this rule is NOT to push players to play in a certain frequency.If both players are fine with doing one turn per 2 weeks for example that's fine.As long as both players agree they can use and do anything they choose. Curry and I just felt that by adding this rule it would be possible to give a player who suspect that their adversary is quitting because he made a wrong move,the chance to report this. The admis would then just inquire why he's not responding anymore.And if this keeps happening with the same guy,we could remove him. But Blashy is right,this league should be laid back,no hastle.And I think most people on the league will cause no problems whatsoever. Besides if you're playing someone and he abandoned the game and you don't mind,...that's ok.We're not here to play policeman,far from it. We just want a good sportmanship on this league and this rule will eventually weed out players without honor. Maybe the rule should be :'In case of problems,contact the admins ' Maybe we should vote on it? Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt88 Posted October 10, 2003 Author Share Posted October 10, 2003 Jordy, Ten days is fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordy Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 I agree whole-heartedly with the rule. And thank you both for setting up and administrating the league. And thank you both again for being so open and listening to input. (Not just stating, "I am administartor, what I say goes" ) Back to the point now. The rule is good, I was just making a suggestion that maybe it be lengthened so that the total amout of time be two weeks. Thats all. Just a suggestion. That gives the players who do one turn a week time to recover if they miss a week. Again, you guys are doing a great job. Keep it up. Ik dank allebei van u voor het uitstekende werk u doet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordy Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Looks like we posted at the same time Kurt88. thanks for the change. It doesn't really effect me but I am playing some people who take a while between turns. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt88 Posted October 10, 2003 Author Share Posted October 10, 2003 Thanks Jordy, Great,your Dutch was excellent I'm sure Curry won't object to the change from 7 days to 10. But when you and your opponent agree (by e-mail or just in silence) to take longer,that's ok,no rule will apply.The rule is just there to make use of when YOU feel it necessery.The admins won't check (they can't) the frequency of turns. Ik ben blij dat je ons werk apprecieert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_Rannug Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Question; If one is playing only one game and say we make a move a week. This game will then take longer then 3 months to complete, will we be removed from the PBEM ladder/leugue due to being inactive then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt88 Posted October 10, 2003 Author Share Posted October 10, 2003 Good point Rannug. Ofcourse it would be totally unjust if you were removed from the league. I think Curry best set the inactivity period to a year or so. PBEM takes time,and since everyone should be able to play at their own pace I think 12 months will do the trick. I'll contact Curry about it. What do you suggest yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_Rannug Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 I don't know maby 12 months is a bit much 4-6 months shoud be OK. We don't want to encorage slow play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt88 Posted October 10, 2003 Author Share Posted October 10, 2003 See your point,but I can see some games last over half a year. Maybe a compromise,8 or 9 months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_Rannug Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 You and Curry will have to decide the importent thing is that the rules are clear for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reepicheep Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Just wanted to let the PBEM league know that I'm headed out of town tomorrow (Saturday morning), and should be gone until next Sunday evening- about nine days. We're headed to the Blue Ridge for some hiking, spelunking, and book hunting (among other things). Won't be able to play SC, however; and I won't be able to respond to challenges until I return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curry Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 LEt's talk about a time. How about 6 months. That would be that you have to complete just one game in six months. Now remember you can take longer actually in another game (although I cant think any of us would do so) It does mean that you would have to be committed enough to play just one game in six months. When we agree on a time, I will go into the admin files and change the time from 90 days to whatever we think is best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_Rannug Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 6 months is OK as far as I'm concerned. None of my games has lasted more then 3 months and normaly a pbem game takes 5-6 weeks unless there is a surrender early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt88 Posted October 11, 2003 Author Share Posted October 11, 2003 6 months is fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt88 Posted October 11, 2003 Author Share Posted October 11, 2003 I talked to Curry about the terms for inactivity and the activation of the houserule. We both feel that 6 months (inactivity) and 10 days (rule can be called upon by players) would be fair for all players. I guess this will take effective when no one objects to it. So if you got still some remarks,wishes or suggestions please let us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordy Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 Sounds good to me. I'm impressed at how well you guys are running the league. You must be doing something right to get so much positive feedback and to be able to come to a conclusion to this rule that seems to keep everyone happy while at the same time keeping the arguing to an absolute minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt88 Posted October 13, 2003 Author Share Posted October 13, 2003 Bumping this back up so more players maybe can express their view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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