Les the Sarge 9-1 Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Ok he might see this he might not, frankly at this point I don't care. I just wasted 2 full hours doing absolutely nothing worth doing. I rolled the dice, odds he gets Axis. The roll came up evens. It was not like I slanted conditions in my favour. Of campaigns there were six on the list, so a second roll later and I got Fall Gelb. Not like I was using unfair advantage again. Hands up anyone here that thinks I am a superior player at this game. Put your hand down stupid. Ok the opening moves, I hit LC capital with two air strikes and a land unit. It falls. Gee what a shock. I move an infantry unit in to claim the kill. LC surrenders. Hardly counts as brilliant. My opponents response, oh great the game is over. I attack France and use deplete air units to hit a hole in his line, then open a breech with infantry and then take the hex. It was the Ardennes. I purposely hold back armour, as they are expensive, and I am waiting for a genuine hole. That hole would never have happened with even the most bland player among us playing. But I kept at it. Well I manage to get a hole eventually, so of course I use it. Several turns later France falls. Oh whipdeedoo, like it is a surprise France fell? And my method was hardly brilliant. But against a whining complaining oh I can't hope to win player, clearly the game is slanted against the Allies. They "never have any chance of winning this game". I try to ignore the endless rant of doom and inadequacy. But damnit it gets a bit much. I take out Yugoslavia in a 3 turn conquest, hardly what counts as genius and I know it. And all through this, my Italians are duking it out with the Royal Navy in what are so clearly stupid waste of valuable assets battles. This is only matched by equally stupid waste or resources battles between the Royal Navy and Kreigsmarine in the Baltic sea. Well March 41 arrives, and I figure ok I have the army might as well use it, the US will get here someday after all. I launch the war against Russia, and in the attack I manage to pick out a few units and kill them. But against 3 air and numerous tank and armies, yeah I can see the Russians losing a few units. But next turn I see a Russian Air on the front line, and a Russian armour sitting in front of my juggernaut. Yes they are obliterated. Thinking it is impossible, I send a unit to Riga, and hmm no one home. No one home in Odessa, no one home in Minsk nor in Kiev. Thanks a lot Jay, glad to have played you. Stick to playing games your small little ego can deal with. I am infuriated right now. I don't know if he will see this, and I care not. But I won't be playing him a future game. This was a very good example of simply grotesque poor sportsmanship on his part. He know so little of ANY history, and yet whines profusely how this game is impossible to win as the Allies. I want to know how he was able to come to that conclusion. I am greatly upset, and I apologise to my SC bretheren. I will only say this for any people new to the game. Until you have played both sides 10 times in each and every single camapaign, you won't be able to say you have the right to qualify the game as eeither pro Axis or in any way unbalanced in any manner. I have experienced hard fought games as both sides even against the AI. Against even our most average players, you can just assume you will lose and rather effectively if your gameplay is either unimaginative, or you refuse to learn what makes the game work. I am on a scale of 1-10, no better than a 6 as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jev.Dk Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Whinner "runs for cover" Jev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyJohn Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 "My sister and I both agree that what Les went through was terrible! No whinner anywhere should receive such treatment." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dutch Army Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 nice foto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyJohn Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Thanks Dutch, I used the keyword "Prudes." It came up both as the photo and as a site, which came up twice. In one instance it told me I wasn't a member and should apply first and go away till I was approved. In that I had no idea of what they represent I passed on the application. The second place the site appeared had a message that anyone who didn't think their stuff was funny shouldn't enter. Hmmmmmmmm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Boggs Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Damn Les That post had the makings of a great AAR. But it kinda drifted just a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Dave Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 But it kinda drifted just a bit. As Van Morrison might say, "... into... the Mystic." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les the Sarge 9-1 Posted February 25, 2004 Author Share Posted February 25, 2004 Sadly, as an AAR it would go mostly like this. Boring typical attack on LC Capital. Boring atypical success. Insert my friends whining here about how the Alies suck, when what he really meant was he was a dumb incompetent history challenged whiner and never should have asked me to play in the first place. Boring atypical attack on France that would have been grossly inadequate against even our most bland players in here. But I managed to deplete a french army with repeat air attacks then a hit from a corps and an army and an army followed through to claim Ardennes hex. Armour vacationing in LC till I tell em the hole is big enough for my satisfaction. Insert my friends whining here about how the Alies suck, when what he really meant was he was a dumb incompetent history challenged whiner and never should have asked me to play in the first place. Three turns of attack, and friends unimaginative defense sees me through French Lines, lines that even a lame opponent could have held better. I am now attacking Paris held by a battere French air unit. Guess what, it gets beat up by armour, oh what a surprise result. I always suggest defending key hexes from attack from German armour with valuable air units eh. Insert my friends whining here about how the Alies suck, when what he really meant was he was a dumb incompetent history challenged whiner and never should have asked me to play in the first place. Not surprisingly, it is too late when he ducks out of Paris with battered air, and defends with an even less prepared corp unit that sure wasn't dug in yet. Italians join. Natually no one joins the Allies. Guess he forgot, in history, no one did. Insert my friends whining here about how the Alies suck, when what he really meant was he was a dumb incompetent history challenged whiner and never should have asked me to play in the first place. Paris falls, like it had a chance? I get some average plunder. And he refuses to vacate Bourdeux and Brest, so of course I kill the British that won't get lost. This leaves the Isles largely unmanned, but not being psychic I don't really know he has stupidly thrown away all his units. Insert my friends whining here about how the Alies suck, when what he really meant was he was a dumb incompetent history challenged whiner and never should have asked me to play in the first place. While waiting to attack Yugoslavia I have been deploying the needed units, one air one HQ and some mixed infantry and armour. Not like they were needed elsewhere eh. Certainly not France. I make an average attack, and Yugo falls in 3 very atypical turns with light losses to my units. Gee what a shock. My minor Axis partners are beginning to join, what a shock eh, not like it wasn't due to happen. Hmm no one has come to aid the Allies, clearly the game is both unbalanced and unfair, if you no bugger all about history that is. Insert my friends whining here about how the Alies suck, when what he really meant was he was a dumb incompetent history challenged whiner and never should have asked me to play in the first place. Well it is finally time, I have built an army outside of Russia, one that took no effort, as the Allies certainly didn't impede me in anyway. Well they have made several suicidal attacks on my navies. Gee I will really miss those Italian naval units I guess. No wait, they took most of the british navy with them. So I guess I won't. But I attack Russia in March, heck could have waited I guess, but why wait till the snow flies. I have two HQ, 4 well position full strength level 1 jet air units, 5 tank units and a big ole bunch of infantry, and they have been itching t go for 3 turns now. Got all my minor buddies all psyched up to go as well. So I attack Russia. And hmm I kill 5 Russian armies just like that. Odd eh. Insert my friends whining here about how the Alies suck, when what he really meant was he was a dumb incompetent history challenged whiner and never should have asked me to play in the first place. Well my esteemed friend in a pout abandons Kiev and Odessa and Minsk and Riga, thus ensuring his total doom. Just doesn't want to play if the Allies suck so much. I told him the evening was over he threw away two perfectly good hours of my time (it was a hotseat game). And he could just go home. Moral of this story, don't waste your time playing stupid jerks that can't accept their level of ignorance and lousy education might possible rule out their ablity to play a wargame. Especially when they are to obtuse to recognise it. The allies are no cakewalk in this game. I have gone on to play totally horrible games as the Germans when playing a decent opponent. I have had my butt handed to me on a platter before the Russians even entered the game before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyJohn Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 An outraged Jason reaches for the keyboard... [ February 25, 2004, 01:44 PM: Message edited by: JerseyJohn ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Boggs Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Originally posted by Immer Etwas: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />But it kinda drifted just a bit. As Van Morrison might say, "... into... the Mystic." </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curry Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 More than likely we all have whined or ranted a bit. Some of us whine during the game or in the AAR at the russian war readiness, or tech not going our way. Or we come on the battlefront board and whine about the whiners we play. [ February 25, 2004, 05:46 PM: Message edited by: Curry ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 I'd like to Whine about the fact I can't get any other B-Rated players to play me! You know what it's like to play Rambo/Terif/Avatar/Dragonheart all day long??? I just deleted 20 saves of other players that never finished halfway through cause I was winning! BAHHHHHH WAHHHHHHH Wussies... I have collectively more losses than anyone on a league...I'm not whining! Damned well, shutup and finish your games Jim! "Beam me up Scotty!" "Eye, Eye Sir!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaMonkey Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 Okay Liam, now you've done it. I never surrender, currently Oak is battling to get ashore in Canada and my meager US troops are being battered by hoards of Nazi CVs. It is sometime in the summer of 1944 and we've been playing this game for 6 months. I lost USSR eons ago but "We shall never give in", "Give me liberty or give me death", "I have not yet begun to fight", if I had any ships left "Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead" add other masochistic sayings here!......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 Heh, at least your Fighting SeaMonkey! That's the spirit. You may not have a chance in hell in comming back but send 3 or 4 corps into Berlin! who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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